Hi, SteveD is the best person to answer this question, but I'm not sure whether he's about at the moment. I'm in my own area, area 4, and I normally run a VAX, BUBBLE which I believe does area routing. I'm setting up an Alpha system, but am currently unable to see any other areas via hecnet. For the most part, either the Alpha or VAX will be running, but not both. Do I need to setup the Alpha as an area router also? Thanks for the help, Mark.