On 12/25/2012 08:45 PM, sampsa at mac.com wrote: I'm fine with providing anything that helps the project. I suggest striving for fully-automatic operation, though, for minimal administrative requirements. I know Peter in particular is an extremely busy guy and may not want the additional headache. That's OK, participation is totally optional - it just means you might get left out of the map. I am happy to admin the map (both automatic collection and the manual stuff) so the "weird" equipment guys only need to send me their details once - after that they will be added to the map each time. GRE tunnels and Cisco routers are by no means "weird", my friend. ;) Let's see what Brian H says about using snmp. That might be the answer. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA