"Bob Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com> writes: LAT is _NOT_ part of DECnet. LAT can be run without DECnet installed or running. IIRC, LAT was licensed with VMS. Yeah, but most (actually, "all" I think) of the DECservers required MOP to download them. How did you do that without DECnet? Or was it just an unwritten catch-22 that you had to have a DECnet node somewhere to boot up your terminal server, even if it wasn't the node you actually wanted to connect to ? Yeah, that does move a rather dark and rainy cloud over the parade. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.