No, I don't remember winprinters. On the other hand, I have not really moved beyond RSX yet... :-) Winprinters were a short-lived, very stupid idea for consumer-grade printing from several different manufacturers. They did all the rasterization and scaling within the device driver (which was, of course, only available for Windows...this was in the 1990s) running on the host computer. The printer itself contained little more than the mechanical frame and the electrical drivers for the print head's jets, and the stepper motors. "Winmodems" were similarly-stupid garbage that did all the DSP on the (Windows) host. Thank heaven that drek was short-lived. With todays network gear, you will not get most packets to your machine anyway, the switches are already doing the filtering for you, so promiscuous mode don't hurt much from that point either. ...and this is the only thing that makes me more comfortable with the idea. The switch will just have more than one entry in its MAC table for this port. Right. Which is no different than if you cascade two switches. The switch is perfectly happy, and your machine will only get the packets you care about, and the random packet for a new machine, and the random packets that goes to no machine (which should be pretty close to zero). So my Ethernet frame filtering gets moved from my desktop system's network interface, instead of "inward" to the IP stack, "outward" to the Ethernet switch's MAC filter...where it's being done anyway. :) But I STILL don't like it! B-) *snicker* -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA