On 10.7.2012 23:42, Bob Armstrong wrote: However, nobody has expressed any interest. The problem is that everybody on this list, by definition, already has SMTP Internet mail. A MAIL-11 gateway, nifty as it might be, just doesn't add anything. Bob . Quite so, but if someone wants to send mail to an Internet recipient from a DECnet-only system (on HECnet) without TCP/IP or SMTP, that won't succeed without a gateway. It might be that everyone has the needed gateways already, though. Kari