With the menu stuff, you have to enable the SMTP service first and then it need to be started separately. You can do that using the startup command procedure (script): $ @sys$startup:tcpip$smtp_startup.com In case you have enabled SMTP (and other TCPIP services) it will start automatically next time you start TCPIP. Kari On 6.3.2013 6:49, Tony Blews wrote: Well I thought the setup stuff would do that for me, so... If you mean in the long winded menu options, yes. If you mean fettling about with the start up scripts, no. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Kari Uusim ki <uusimaki at exdecfinland.org <mailto:uusimaki at exdecfinland.org>> wrote: On 6.3.2013 5:50, Tony Blews wrote: Hi, I've asked this one before.... If I try to send mail out by SMTP% I get a message sayin that the queue is not started. Aside from "start the queue", does anyone have any useful advice? VMS 7.3 btw Tony Just checking, have you started the SMTP service in TCPIP? Kari