On 05/17/2013 04:32 AM, Oleg Safiullin wrote: I bet you wouldn't have trouble cooling a real PDP-11 in a Russian winter. ;) Some PDP-11's are smaller and cooler than PC's :) http://pdp-11.org.ru/~form/files/pics/1183/1183-d.jpg That's a great "hacking around" setup! Very nice! http://pdp-11.org.ru/~form/files/pics/dell.jpg OH MY GOD!! I'm going to have nightmares about those. Are there collectors there that collect the Soviet clones? I have an UKNC, the soviet computer, small 11/03 clone with second CPU instead of device controllers and with graphics :) http://pdp-11.org.ru/~form/files/pics/uknc/NewKMDYK.jpg Those are such neat machines! -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA