John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> writes: From: <Paul_Koning at Dell.com> Can't search microfiche, and a fiche reader is a clumsy and hard to use contraption. I always figured that was the whole point. You had to do a *lot* of squinting and typing before you could do anything that DEC didn't want you to. How do you figure. Fiche was the media of its day and listings were for reference; not intended to you to rebuild VMS. When CD-rom first appeared on the scene, DEC put the listings on CD-rom. You could run utilities like UNLIS (I believe my good buddy Hunter wrote that) which could give you sanitized source but I wouldn't try to use it do to the Copyright. The "listing" portion is far more valuable than the source itself. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.