On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: yOn Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: Daniel Soderstrom <snaggs at mac.com> writes: =20 Lighter??? =20 FWIW, you'd be much better off running the latest and greatest on your VAX= hardware to take advantage of the performance features contained within=20= VMS 3 0.9 million lines of code VMS 5.4 6.5 million lines of code VMS 7.1 25 million lines of code I'd like to go back to 5.5H4 and avoid the bloat from OO programming. I was g= iven advice previously that 6.3 is best for old VAX's.=20 OO! ROTFLMFA0! OpenVMS may be written in about 8 different languages but I'm fairly sure none are OO...except MAYBE the few C++ bits according to Wikipedia. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any C++ in there. Possibly in the language RTL. I know that GEM had a bit of C++ thrown in at the end of its life, but it too is mostly BLISS. Although I'm late to the party on this thread, I can't agree more (as I have said to Daniel in a private thread). V7.3 on VAX is absolutely the way to go, especially if you intend to use HPs TCP/IP package. As for Alpha I'd go with V8.3 and Itanium, V8.3-1H1. As Brian pointed out V8,4 was the first release post off-shoring. The work done for this release was initiated when ZKO was being shutdown and moved to MRO, which too was promptly shutdown and moved to India. As someone who has used and observed some serious issues with this release (which I believe Brian is too) I would not recommend it at all. It is my belief that that the goings on at HP greatly affected the quality. Regards, Tim.