On 2012-07-24 11:46, MG wrote: On 24-7-2012 10:30, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-07-24 03:50, Boyanich, Alastair wrote: Nope. :-( It's still owned, restricted and a silly situation. Just like the last 10 years... Johnny Nuts. Indeed. Anyone have any really good contacts at HP? That RSX is the property of HP, I didn't know. I thought DEC sold several of its non-/pre-VMS proprietary operating systems to at least one company other than Compaq, or am I thinking of RT and RSTS/E? No, you are right in principle, but the situation is more complicated than that. And have been all the time. When DEC sold their PDP-11 software to Mentec, they retained some controlling rights over it. Those clauses are still in effect, meaning that even though DEC is now HP, and Mentec (or what's left of it) sold their PDP-11 software on, HP now have a controlling clause for all this software. It is HP that needs to be convinced to release things before anything else can happen. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol