I would say they're usually around the "well, let's do it because we CAN". BTW, we need to get started on the X.25 network soon. Followed by an ISDN-over-IP network. HECPTN, guys! sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +961 788 10537 On 24 Feb 2013, at 02:28, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 23 Feb 2013, at 19:27, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 02/23/2013 07:21 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: I've managed to coax my provider in to giving me another IP (apparently 5 IPs come with my plan ), so I can get a virtual cisco up on my VPS (in Canada). Brian, would you like to get this all joined in to the mesh? Is a NA hub still needed or has someone else offered one? (This'd be on an unmetered gigE pipe) I think running a hub on an emulated router maybe isn't the best idea. (sorry to say so) Are any of my ideas the "best"? ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA