29 Feb
2016
29 Feb
'16
11:24 a.m.
Back in the day I used custom kernel configurations for DECnet under linux.
Am I right in thinking that the kernel drivers have been pulled and
support is now in user land?
Thanks, Mark.
29 Feb
29 Feb
11:57 a.m.
Well, no, not as I understand it...
The DECNET for Linux guys stopped working on the code a while back, the kernel devs then
dropped the code as well and none of it is maintained.
I think the latest version of Ubuntu Server that it runs on is like 12.04, which is
ANCIENT.
Sampsa
On 29 Feb 2016, at 13:24, Mark Wickens <mark at
wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
Back in the day I used custom kernel configurations for DECnet under linux.
Am I right in thinking that the kernel drivers have been pulled and support is now in
user land?
Thanks, Mark.
12:29 p.m.
Ah this is a shame - I would have thought that given the maturity of the
code maintaining maybe wasn't so much a technical as a time consuming
occupation?
I wonder if we have the resources in the HECnet community to keep this
going? Has this subject come up before and passed me by?
Are there any other unix alternative other than Digital Unix/tru64?
Cheers, Mark.
On 29/02/16 10:57, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Well, no, not as I understand it...
The DECNET for Linux guys stopped working on the code a while back, the kernel devs then
dropped the code as well and none of it is maintained.
I think the latest version of Ubuntu Server that it runs on is like 12.04, which is
ANCIENT.
Sampsa
> On 29 Feb 2016, at 13:24, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Back in the day I used custom kernel configurations for DECnet under linux.
> Am I right in thinking that the kernel drivers have been pulled and support is now in
user land?
>
> Thanks, Mark.
12:32 p.m.
Didn?t someone here implement a DECNET stack in Python recently?
Sampsa
On 29 Feb 2016, at 14:29, Mark Wickens <mark at
wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
Ah this is a shame - I would have thought that given the maturity of the code maintaining
maybe wasn't so much a technical as a time consuming occupation?
I wonder if we have the resources in the HECnet community to keep this going? Has this
subject come up before and passed me by?
Are there any other unix alternative other than Digital Unix/tru64?
Cheers, Mark.
On 29/02/16 10:57, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Well, no, not as I understand it...
The DECNET for Linux guys stopped working on the code a while back, the kernel devs then
dropped the code as well and none of it is maintained.
I think the latest version of Ubuntu Server that it runs on is like 12.04, which is
ANCIENT.
Sampsa
> On 29 Feb 2016, at 13:24, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Back in the day I used custom kernel configurations for DECnet under linux.
> Am I right in thinking that the kernel drivers have been pulled and support is now in
user land?
>
> Thanks, Mark.
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2:47 p.m.
Yes, Paul Koning, who is on this list I think.
Regards
Rob
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Didn?t someone here implement a DECNET stack in Python recently?
Sampsa
On 29 Feb 2016, at 14:29, Mark Wickens <mark
at wickensonline.co.uk>
wrote:
Ah this is a shame - I would have thought that given the maturity of the
code
maintaining maybe wasn't so much a technical as a time consuming
occupation?
I wonder if we have the resources in the HECnet
community to keep this
going? Has this subject come up before and passed me by?
Are there any other unix alternative other than Digital Unix/tru64?
Cheers, Mark.
On 29/02/16 10:57, Sampsa Laine wrote:
> Well, no, not as I understand it...
>
> The DECNET for Linux guys stopped working on the code a while back, the
kernel
devs then dropped the code as well and none of it is maintained.
>
> I think the latest version of Ubuntu Server that it runs on is like 12.04,
which is ANCIENT.
>
> Sampsa
>
>
>
>> On 29 Feb 2016, at 13:24, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk>
wrote:
>>
>> Back in the day I used custom kernel configurations for DECnet under
linux.
>> Am I right in thinking that the kernel
drivers have been pulled and
support is now in user land?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Mark.
>
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4:51 p.m.
On Feb 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Robert Jarratt
<robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote:
Yes, Paul Koning, who is on this list I think.
Right.
See svn://akdesign.dyndns.org/pydecnet/trunk/pydecnet for the code.
paul
3:01 p.m.
On 02/29/2016 06:29 AM, Mark Wickens wrote:
Ah this is a shame - I would have thought that given
the maturity of the
code maintaining maybe wasn't so much a technical as a time consuming
occupation?
The problem isn't the DECnet code, the problem is the kernel
interface. It has been a moving target for years. Everything that
touches it must be constantly changed to keep in sync with it, and at
this point, nobody with the required skillset (and more importantly,
spare time) is available to do the work.
I wonder if we have the resources in the HECnet
community to keep this
going? Has this subject come up before and passed me by?
I don't think it has come up here before.
Are there any other unix alternative other than
Digital Unix/tru64?
Yes, there is a good potential solution in the works. A commercial
product that addresses this problem is in the process of being
open-sourced. Stand by for more info as things develop.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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