That's right, two repeaters between any two stations which gave you 1680 meters spanned distance. The extra 180 meters come from four transceiver cables, 45 m each. The repeater rule btw is lifted by a bridge. And there is a maximum of 7 bridges between stations. Not sure what you mean with a star configuration. The first (proprietary) glass fiber repeaters were star designs, was that what you meant? DEC also sold remote bridges and repeaters. A glass fiber trunc connected either two remote repeaters or bridges or one of each. I forgot how long a fiber segment could be, 2500 m IIRC . That gave you some room to plan on a large site. Two remote repeaters counted as one in the two repeater rule. Expensive stuff though. A Lanbridge 100 was 30.000 guilders in 1988. A remote bridge was even more expensive. Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone. Origineel bericht Van: Johnny Billquist Verzonden: zaterdag 28 februari 2015 21:28 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Maximum number of L2 routers? On 2015-02-28 21:21, Hans Vlems wrote: Yeah of course you can have more than one L2 router in an area, didn't think of it :) :-) About the 10base5 segment, that was limited in length to 500 meters. Transceivers must be at least 2.5 meters apart, hence the 200 nodes. This was before a DELNI was invented. If my failing memory doesn't fail me that 200 node limit remained the same with Delni's. But you were allowed to bridge several segments (using repeaters). I think the maximum distance, including hops, between any two nodes had to be within 1000m, but you could also do stars... You were not allowed to have more than two repeaters I also seem to remember. Johnny Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone. Origineel bericht Van: Johnny Billquist Verzonden: zaterdag 28 februari 2015 20:55 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Maximum number of L2 routers? On 2015-02-28 20:51, Hans Vlems wrote: 64:-)? You can definitely have more than one L2 router per area... :-) I don't know for sure, as you probably have guessed... There is an ncp executor parameter called maximum broadcast routers, default value 32 iirc. Is there an architectural limit, depends on what you mean by ethernet segment. A 10base5 segment was limited to 200 nodes. 64 L2 routers might put a hefty broadcast load on it. On an extended ethernet LAN there is likely no technical limit. Really? I have some vague memory of some limit of an ethernet segment, but I can't recall any details now. Why 200? Johnny Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone. Origineel bericht Van: Jordi Guillaumes i Pons Verzonden: zaterdag 28 februari 2015 20:37 Aan: HECnet Mailing List Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: [HECnet] Maximum number of L2 routers? Hello, list, I'm trying to remember what is the maximum number of area routers allowed in a DECNET Phase IV ethernet segment. Anyone of you have that information at hand? On other news, the old macbook I was using as home server has died, after years of service beyond the call of duty. I'm setting up my stuff using several smallish ARM computers. To be specific, now I'm running a cubietruck and and Odroid-C1 (and a raspberry Pi as router/firewall). I'm having trouble with the net connectivity, so some yo-yo disconnects from area 7 should be expected. Not so hard as last sunday, but I'm still doing quite a lot of reboots. BTW, the SG1 multinet link seems to be down again (unless it is a problem in my side, which is completely possible). -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol