Hello! Odd. I'd thought that they would be named Hagar and Hamlet. When those things first came out, the advertising being used was indeed from Hagar the Horrible, a Viking. In fact I even have a mouse pad from it...... And there's a reason why those shell commands were beyond the comprehension of regular people. They were not written by people..... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote: On Sep 29, 2013, at 17:01, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 09/29/2013 04:26 PM, Hans Vlems wrote: It is good fun but those panels kept me well away from IBM systems. AIX had something similar as an aid to system managers. I forgot its name but it was a blessing because the shell commands were beyond human comprehension... Smit (graphical) and smitty (textual). On one of the boxes at PSU when I was there renamed to smut and smutty. :) -brian