17 Apr
2017
17 Apr
'17
9:57 p.m.
I've been rewriting the code that does address rewriting for mail that
passes between MAIL11 and SMTP the last few days, and I think I got it
sorted now. So, if people have tried, and found either funny, or
non-working behavior please try now, and see if thinks look better.
I've also been testing with VMS MAIL, which uses MAIL11 in some more
creative ways, to make sure it gets translated in reasonable ways by my
RSX gateway.
As a warning, the CC field in VMS MAIL might not be totally correctly
handled yet.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
18 Apr
18 Apr
7:32 p.m.
The Gmail problem still persists I see, but that is their problem.
My messages sent to hotmail addresses seem to lose the body text too.
and send to mim::"tony at tardis.recondite-computers.co.uk" (effectively
sending back to myself) loses the message body too.
Just thoughts
Tony.
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
I've been rewriting the code that does address
rewriting for mail that
passes between MAIL11 and SMTP the last few days, and I think I got it
sorted now. So, if people have tried, and found either funny, or
non-working behavior please try now, and see if thinks look better.
I've also been testing with VMS MAIL, which uses MAIL11 in some more
creative ways, to make sure it gets translated in reasonable ways by my RSX
gateway.
As a warning, the CC field in VMS MAIL might not be totally correctly
handled yet.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
9:32 p.m.
gmail does not work, and I doubt they will fix it. But either way, it's
not something that will change over night, so you can give up on that one.
(I thought it was clear that gmail refuses, and it's outside my control.)
Hotmail loosing the body is a bit more strange though. That should be
looked into.
Johnny
On 2017-04-18 19:32, Tony Blews wrote:
The Gmail problem still persists I see, but that is
their problem.
My messages sent to hotmail addresses seem to lose the body text too.
and send to mim::"tony at tardis.recondite-computers.co.uk
<mailto:tony at tardis.recondite-computers.co.uk>" (effectively sending
back to myself) loses the message body too.
Just thoughts
Tony.
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
I've been rewriting the code that does address rewriting for mail
that passes between MAIL11 and SMTP the last few days, and I think I
got it sorted now. So, if people have tried, and found either funny,
or non-working behavior please try now, and see if thinks look better.
I've also been testing with VMS MAIL, which uses MAIL11 in some more
creative ways, to make sure it gets translated in reasonable ways by
my RSX gateway.
As a warning, the CC field in VMS MAIL might not be totally correctly
handled yet.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> ||
Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
9:42 p.m.
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Hotmail loosing the body is a bit more strange though.
That should be looked
into.
As a data point, I sent mail from this host (thrifty) to miser::fred at ....
Received fine on MISER::
did a reply/extract and while I received the quoted message back on
thrifty, my reply body was missing ...
Fred
9:47 p.m.
On 2017-04-18 21:42, Fred wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Let me see if I got this right.
Mail sent from thrifty (internet) to miser (decnet):
All worked as expected.
Mail sent from miser (decnet) to thrifty (internet):
The quoted part of the original mail came through, but additional text
you wrote did not come through.
That sounds very strange, as I would expect the quoted part and your new
text to just be parts of the same body of text. What mail program are
you using on the DECnet side? VMSMAIL?
I've sent mail with VMSMAIL to the internet through my mail gateway, and
received the mail just fine. Could any of you send me a mail from a
machine that thus seem to strip the body away, so that I might get such
a mail?
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Hotmail loosing the body is a bit more strange
though. That should be
looked into.
As a data point, I sent mail from this host (thrifty) to miser::fred at ....
Received fine on MISER::
did a reply/extract and while I received the quoted message back on
thrifty, my reply body was missing ...
19 Apr
19 Apr
1:45 p.m.
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Mail sent from thrifty (internet) to miser (decnet):
All worked as expected.
Correct.
Mail sent from miser (decnet) to thrifty (internet):
The quoted part of the original mail came through, but additional text you
wrote did not come through.
Correct.
That sounds very strange, as I would expect the quoted
part and your new text
to just be parts of the same body of text. What mail program are you using on
I agree!
the DECnet side? VMSMAIL?
Used VMSMAIL on MISER::
I will send you a piece of mail from MISER:: (but through the internet
gateway of MIM) I will also specify what I will reply with if you get it.
Fred
18 Apr
18 Apr
10:12 p.m.
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
gmail does not work, and I doubt they will fix it. But
either way, it's
not something that will change over night, so you can give up on that one.
(I thought it was clear that gmail refuses, and it's outside my control.)
Yes, I understand, that is why I said it was "their problem".
I'll try to email you something that loses the body. now.
Tony.
19 Apr
19 Apr
12:22 a.m.
On 2017-04-18 22:12, Tony Blews wrote:
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
gmail does not work, and I doubt they will fix it. But either way,
it's not something that will change over night, so you can give up
on that one.
(I thought it was clear that gmail refuses, and it's outside my
control.)
Yes, I understand, that is why I said it was "their problem".
I'll try to email you something that loses the body. now.
No mail seen (yet).
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
12:25 a.m.
Nothing returned... I'll resend it.
MAIL> mail
To: bqt at softjar.se
Subj: test with body
Enter your message below. Press CTRL/Z when complete, or CTRL/C to quit:
There really is text here
Exit
MAIL>
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2017-04-18 22:12, Tony Blews wrote:
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
gmail does not work, and I doubt they will fix it. But either way,
it's not something that will change over night, so you can give up
on that one.
(I thought it was clear that gmail refuses, and it's outside my
control.)
Yes, I understand, that is why I said it was "their problem".
I'll try to email you something that loses the body. now.
No mail seen (yet).
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
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