On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 2 Oct 2013, at 21:11, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 10/02/2013 03:10 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Emacs has too high of a learning curve for me...with vi I prefer vim. Emacs has an OBSCENE learning curve. But if you give it the time that it takes, it will reward you for the rest of your life. I full agree with that sentiment, I can use Emacs to a basic degree (I don't progam in elisp or anything) and it is a very effective editor. Shame it doesn't come as standard on all *nix boxes, I have to revert to vi (UNIX) or nano/pico (most Linux distros) My love of pico could be related to my love of Alpine, too. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects