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I posted this message yesterday, but for some reason people are telling me it never went to the list. I removed the photos I originally attached and am sending it again. -Mark ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA To: hecnet at update.uu.se To everyone who asked, I built TME last night on Ubuntu 18.04 on two different systems, and installed NetBSD 1.6.2 on a sun3/160 instance. It's working very nicely, minus networking; bear in mind that TME was originally written to run on a NetBSD host (it's in the pkg collection), and makes use of BPF to implement networking (I seem to remember it also working on FreeBSD). Linux does have a bpf compatibility interface, so I'll see if it can be made to work and follow up with you all. That said, grab TME here: https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz That's the home site, there's lots of info on the emulator https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/ There's also this site, specifically about installing SunOS 4.1.1: http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos41 1tosun3emulatedintme08onlinux DON'T follow those build instructions, they're incredibly old and will get you nowhere fast. :) Here are my steps: Make sure you have the gtk-2.0 and glib2.0 dev packages installed. Then... mkdir $HOME/tme cd $HOME/tme tar -zxvf your_download_dir/tme-0.8.tar.gz cd tme-0.8 vi libtme/module.c (comment out line 93 "LTDL_SET_PRELOADED_SYMBOLS();", it's no longer needed) and save. ./configure --prefix=$HOME/tme --disable-warnings 'LIBS=-lglib-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lX11' export LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/tme/lib (or "setenv LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH $HOME/tme/lib" for csh/tcsh) make make install If everything built and installed without errors, you'll have the install tree in $HOME/tme. From here you can follow the various instructions on the original site above for installing NetBSD, etc. If you ran into any errors either building, installing, or running, just drop me a note, I'd be happy to help! P.S.: I've attached some photos of it booting up! P.P.S: You'll notice it seg fault when you exit tmesh. The original does this too. The author even comments about how there's no "quit" command. Regards, Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:

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Thanks Mark! -Dave On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote:

Absolutely. I'll dig it out after dinner later tonight. -Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com <mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote: On 09/18/2018 08:12 PM, Mark Abene wrote: > The TME emulator works fine on Ubuntu with very minor massaging. I

don't

> recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary. > For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If you

like,

I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while.

If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it took to get it running, I'd very much appreciate that. I hacked on it for a

bit

earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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raywjewhurst＠gmail.com

21 Sep 21 Sep

2:13 a.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

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Thanks Mark! -Dave On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote:

I don't

> recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary. > For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If you

like,

I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while.

If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it took

get it running, I'd very much appreciate that. I hacked on it for

a bit

earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

phiber＠phiber.com

2:19 a.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

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Thanks Mark! -Dave On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote:

I don't

> recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary. > For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If

you like,

> I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while. If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it took

get it running, I'd very much appreciate that. I hacked on it for

a bit

earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

raywjewhurst＠gmail.com

2:26 a.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

Mark, It worked like a charm. Thanks. Now the fun begins! Thanks again, Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote:

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Thanks Mark! -Dave On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote: > Absolutely. I'll dig it out after dinner later tonight. > > -Mark > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com > <mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote: > > On 09/18/2018 08:12 PM, Mark Abene wrote: > > The TME emulator works fine on Ubuntu with very minor massaging. I don't > > recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary. > > For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If you like, > > I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while. > > If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it took to > get it running, I'd very much appreciate that. I hacked on it for a bit > earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up. > > -Dave > > -- > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ > New Kensington, PA > > -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

phiber＠phiber.com

2:33 a.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

Excellent! I'll probably go look in the main Makefile and correct the ieee754 library install to happen earlier on, to avoid this error. Have fun, Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> wrote:

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Mark, It worked like a charm. Thanks. Now the fun begins! Thanks again, Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote:

phiber＠phiber.com

2:57 a.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

Like I suspected, the autoconfig creates the ic/Makefile with the wrong install order. QUICK FIX: Before you 'make install', edit $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/Makefile and change lines 371 and 372 so that SUBDIRS and DIST_SUBDIRS say "ieee754 m68k sparc stp22xx" (without the quotes), so that "ieee754" appears first, not second. Then a 'make install' should just work without errors. -Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:33 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote:

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Mark, It worked like a charm. Thanks. Now the fun begins! Thanks again, Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote:

Mark, I followed your instructions to a "T" and it built fine but I got the following errors on the install. /usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-ld: cannot find -ltme-ieee754 collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status libtool: install: error: relink `tme_ic_m68k.la' with the above command before installing it Makefile:312: recipe for target 'install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES' failed make[4]: *** [install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:470: recipe for target 'install-am' failed make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:464: recipe for target 'install' failed make[2]: *** [install] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:612: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic' Makefile:315: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 I also am also running Ubuntu 18.04. Thanks in advance, Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: > I posted this message yesterday, but for some reason people are > telling me it never went to the list. > I removed the photos I originally attached and am sending it again. > > -Mark > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> > Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:58 PM > Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA > To: hecnet at update.uu.se > > > To everyone who asked, I built TME last night on Ubuntu 18.04 on two > different systems, and installed NetBSD 1.6.2 on a sun3/160 instance. > It's working very nicely, minus networking; bear in mind that TME was > originally written to run on a NetBSD host (it's in the pkg collection), > and makes use of BPF to implement networking (I seem to remember it also > working on FreeBSD). Linux does have a bpf compatibility interface, so I'll > see if it can be made to work and follow up with you all. That said, grab > TME here: https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz > That's the home site, there's lots of info on the emulator > https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/ > There's also this site, specifically about installing SunOS 4.1.1: > http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos41 > 1tosun3emulatedintme08onlinux > DON'T follow those build instructions, they're incredibly old and will > get you nowhere fast. :) > > Here are my steps: > Make sure you have the gtk-2.0 and glib2.0 dev packages installed. > Then... > mkdir $HOME/tme > cd $HOME/tme > tar -zxvf your_download_dir/tme-0.8.tar.gz > cd tme-0.8 > vi libtme/module.c (comment out line 93 "LTDL_SET_PRELOADED_SYMBOLS();", > it's no longer needed) and save. > ./configure --prefix=$HOME/tme --disable-warnings 'LIBS=-lglib-2.0 > -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lX11' > export LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/tme/lib (or "setenv LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH > $HOME/tme/lib" for csh/tcsh) > make > make install > > If everything built and installed without errors, you'll have the > install tree in $HOME/tme. From here you can follow the various > instructions on the original site above for installing NetBSD, etc. > > If you ran into any errors either building, installing, or running, > just drop me a note, I'd be happy to help! > > P.S.: I've attached some photos of it booting up! > P.P.S: You'll notice it seg fault when you exit tmesh. The original > does this too. The author even comments about how there's no "quit" command. > > Regards, > Mark > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> > wrote: > >> >> Thanks Mark! >> >> -Dave >> >> On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote: >> > Absolutely. I'll dig it out after dinner later tonight. >> > >> > -Mark >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Dave McGuire < >> mcguire at neurotica.com >> > <mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote: >> > >> > On 09/18/2018 08:12 PM, Mark Abene wrote: >> > > The TME emulator works fine on Ubuntu with very minor >> massaging. I don't >> > > recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary. >> > > For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If >> you like, >> > > I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while. >> > >> > If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it >> took to >> > get it running, I'd very much appreciate that. I hacked on it >> for a bit >> > earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up. >> > >> > -Dave >> > >> > -- >> > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >> > New Kensington, PA >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >> New Kensington, PA >> > > >

raywjewhurst＠gmail.com

4:28 a.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

Still having problems. It's not seeing any devices. Here's what I get: ./MY-SUN2:8: tme/machine/sun2: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:9: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:10: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:11: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:12: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:13: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:14: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:18: obio0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:19: obio0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:20: obio0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:24: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:25: tme/generic/bus: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:26: mbmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:30: mbmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:31: sc0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:63: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:64: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:65: zs1: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:66: zs1: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:67: tme/host/gtk/display: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:68: bwtwo0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:69: kbd0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:70: ms0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:87: scsibus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:88: sd0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:95: scsibus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:96: st0: No such file or directory tmesh> I copied everything into /usr/local so I don't get what's going wrong. Thanks Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote:

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Mark, It worked like a charm. Thanks. Now the fun begins! Thanks again, Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote:

Oddly enough, I did have that happen on one install but not another. Try this: cd $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/ieee754 make install ...and if that works, try 'make install' again from the main tme-0.8 directory. I suspect some things in the install might be occurring out of order. -Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> wrote: > Mark, > I followed your instructions to a "T" and it built fine but I got the > following errors on the install. > > /usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-ld: cannot find -ltme-ieee754 > collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status > libtool: install: error: relink `tme_ic_m68k.la' with the above > command before installing it > Makefile:312: recipe for target 'install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES' failed > make[4]: *** [install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 > make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' > Makefile:470: recipe for target 'install-am' failed > make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2 > make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' > Makefile:464: recipe for target 'install' failed > make[2]: *** [install] Error 2 > make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' > Makefile:612: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed > make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic' > Makefile:315: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed > make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 > > I also am also running Ubuntu 18.04. > > Thanks in advance, > > Ray > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: > >> I posted this message yesterday, but for some reason people are >> telling me it never went to the list. >> I removed the photos I originally attached and am sending it again. >> >> -Mark >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> >> Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA >> To: hecnet at update.uu.se >> >> >> To everyone who asked, I built TME last night on Ubuntu 18.04 on two >> different systems, and installed NetBSD 1.6.2 on a sun3/160 instance. >> It's working very nicely, minus networking; bear in mind that TME was >> originally written to run on a NetBSD host (it's in the pkg collection), >> and makes use of BPF to implement networking (I seem to remember it also >> working on FreeBSD). Linux does have a bpf compatibility interface, so I'll >> see if it can be made to work and follow up with you all. That said, grab >> TME here: https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz >> That's the home site, there's lots of info on the emulator >> https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/ >> There's also this site, specifically about installing SunOS 4.1.1: >> http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos41 >> 1tosun3emulatedintme08onlinux >> DON'T follow those build instructions, they're incredibly old and >> will get you nowhere fast. :) >> >> Here are my steps: >> Make sure you have the gtk-2.0 and glib2.0 dev packages installed. >> Then... >> mkdir $HOME/tme >> cd $HOME/tme >> tar -zxvf your_download_dir/tme-0.8.tar.gz >> cd tme-0.8 >> vi libtme/module.c (comment out line 93 "LTDL_SET_PRELOADED_SYMBOLS();", >> it's no longer needed) and save. >> ./configure --prefix=$HOME/tme --disable-warnings 'LIBS=-lglib-2.0 >> -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lX11' >> export LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/tme/lib (or "setenv LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH >> $HOME/tme/lib" for csh/tcsh) >> make >> make install >> >> If everything built and installed without errors, you'll have the >> install tree in $HOME/tme. From here you can follow the various >> instructions on the original site above for installing NetBSD, etc. >> >> If you ran into any errors either building, installing, or running, >> just drop me a note, I'd be happy to help! >> >> P.S.: I've attached some photos of it booting up! >> P.P.S: You'll notice it seg fault when you exit tmesh. The original >> does this too. The author even comments about how there's no "quit" command. >> >> Regards, >> Mark >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Thanks Mark! >>> >>> -Dave >>> >>> On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote: >>> > Absolutely. I'll dig it out after dinner later tonight. >>> > >>> > -Mark >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Dave McGuire < >>> mcguire at neurotica.com >>> > <mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > On 09/18/2018 08:12 PM, Mark Abene wrote: >>> > > The TME emulator works fine on Ubuntu with very minor >>> massaging. I don't >>> > > recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary. >>> > > For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. >>> If you like, >>> > > I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while. >>> > >>> > If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it >>> took to >>> > get it running, I'd very much appreciate that. I hacked on it >>> for a bit >>> > earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up. >>> > >>> > -Dave >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >>> > New Kensington, PA >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >>> New Kensington, PA >>> >> >> >> >

jsteve＠superglobalmegacorp.com

4:46 a.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

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From memory you really want to do a ?static? build of TME. I?ve always had issues with it finding itself.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ray Jewhurst Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:30 AM To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA Still having problems.? It's not seeing any devices.? Here's what I get: ./MY-SUN2:8: tme/machine/sun2: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:9: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:10: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:11: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:12: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:13: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:14: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:18: obio0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:19: obio0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:20: obio0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:24: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:25: tme/generic/bus: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:26: mbmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:30: mbmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:31: sc0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:63: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:64: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:65: zs1: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:66: zs1: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:67: tme/host/gtk/display: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:68: bwtwo0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:69: kbd0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:70: ms0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:87: scsibus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:88: sd0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:95: scsibus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:96: st0: No such file or directory tmesh> I copied everything into /usr/local so I don't get what's going wrong. Thanks Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Like I suspected, the autoconfig creates the ic/Makefile with the wrong install order. QUICK FIX: Before you 'make install', edit $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/Makefile and change lines 371 and 372 so that SUBDIRS and DIST_SUBDIRS say "ieee754 m68k sparc stp22xx" (without the quotes), so that "ieee754" appears first, not second. Then a 'make install' should just work without errors. -Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:33 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Excellent! I'll probably go look in the main Makefile and correct the ieee754 library install to happen earlier on, to avoid this error. Have fun, Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> wrote: Mark, It worked like a charm.? Thanks.? Now the fun begins! Thanks again, Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Oddly enough, I did have that happen on one install but not another. Try this: cd $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/ieee754 make install ...and if that works, try 'make install' again from the main tme-0.8 directory. I suspect some things in the install might be occurring out of order. -Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> wrote: Mark, I followed your instructions to a "T" and it built fine but I got the following errors on the install. /usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-ld: cannot find -ltme-ieee754 collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status libtool: install: error: relink `tme_ic_m68k.la' with the above command before installing it Makefile:312: recipe for target 'install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES' failed make[4]: *** [install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:470: recipe for target 'install-am' failed make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:464: recipe for target 'install' failed make[2]: *** [install] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:612: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic' Makefile:315: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 I also am also running Ubuntu 18.04. Thanks in advance, Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: I posted this message yesterday, but for some reason people are telling me it never went to the list. I removed the photos I originally attached and am sending it again. -Mark ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA To: hecnet at update.uu.se To everyone who asked, I built TME last night on Ubuntu 18.04 on two different systems, and installed NetBSD 1.6.2 on a sun3/160 instance. It's working very nicely, minus networking; bear in mind that TME was originally written to run on a NetBSD host (it's in the pkg collection), and makes use of BPF to implement networking (I seem to remember it also working on FreeBSD). Linux does have a bpf compatibility interface, so I'll see if it can be made to work and follow up with you all. That said, grab TME here:?https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz That's the home site, there's lots of info on the emulator?https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/ There's also this site, specifically about installing SunOS 4.1.1:?http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos411tosun3emulated… DON'T follow those build instructions, they're incredibly old and will get you nowhere fast.? :) Here are my steps: Make sure you have the gtk-2.0 and glib2.0 dev packages installed. Then... mkdir $HOME/tme cd $HOME/tme tar -zxvf your_download_dir/tme-0.8.tar.gz cd tme-0.8 vi libtme/module.c (comment out line 93 "LTDL_SET_PRELOADED_SYMBOLS();", it's no longer needed) and save. ./configure --prefix=$HOME/tme --disable-warnings 'LIBS=-lglib-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lX11' export LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/tme/lib (or "setenv LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH $HOME/tme/lib" for csh/tcsh) make make install If everything built and installed without errors, you'll have the install tree in $HOME/tme. From here you can follow the various instructions on the original site above for installing NetBSD, etc. If you ran into any errors either building, installing, or running, just drop me a note, I'd be happy to help! P.S.: I've attached some photos of it booting up! P.P.S: You'll notice it seg fault when you exit tmesh. The original does this too. The author even comments about how there's no "quit" command. Regards, Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: ? Thanks Mark! ? ? ? ?-Dave On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote:

...

Absolutely. I'll dig it out after dinner later tonight. -Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com <mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote: ? ? ?On 09/18/2018 08:12 PM, Mark Abene wrote: ? ? ?> The TME emulator works fine on Ubuntu with very minor massaging. I don't ? ? ?> recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary. ? ? ?> For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If you like, ? ? ?> I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while. ? ? ?? If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it took to ? ? ?get it running, I'd very much appreciate that.? I hacked on it for a bit ? ? ?earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up. ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave ? ? ?-- ? ? ?Dave McGuire, AK4HZ ? ? ?New Kensington, PA

-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

raywjewhurst＠gmail.com

5:02 a.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

Running 'static' still getting same errors. On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 10:46 PM, Jason Stevens < jsteve at superglobalmegacorp.com> wrote:

...

From memory you really want to do a ?static? build of TME. I?ve always had issues with it finding itself. Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 *From: *Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> *Sent: *Friday, September 21, 2018 10:30 AM *To: *hecnet at update.uu.se *Subject: *Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA Still having problems. It's not seeing any devices. Here's what I get: ./MY-SUN2:8: tme/machine/sun2: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:9: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:10: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:11: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:12: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:13: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:14: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:18: obio0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:19: obio0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:20: obio0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:24: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:25: tme/generic/bus: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:26: mbmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:30: mbmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:31: sc0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:63: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:64: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:65: zs1: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:66: zs1: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:67: tme/host/gtk/display: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:68: bwtwo0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:69: kbd0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:70: ms0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:87: scsibus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:88: sd0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:95: scsibus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:96: st0: No such file or directory tmesh> I copied everything into /usr/local so I don't get what's going wrong. Thanks Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Like I suspected, the autoconfig creates the ic/Makefile with the wrong install order. QUICK FIX: Before you 'make install', edit $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/Makefile and change lines 371 and 372 so that SUBDIRS and DIST_SUBDIRS say "ieee754 m68k sparc stp22xx" (without the quotes), so that "ieee754" appears first, not second. Then a 'make install' should just work without errors. -Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:33 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Excellent! I'll probably go look in the main Makefile and correct the ieee754 library install to happen earlier on, to avoid this error. Have fun, Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> wrote: Mark, It worked like a charm. Thanks. Now the fun begins! Thanks again, Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Oddly enough, I did have that happen on one install but not another. Try this: cd $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/ieee754 make install ...and if that works, try 'make install' again from the main tme-0.8 directory. I suspect some things in the install might be occurring out of order. -Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> wrote: Mark, I followed your instructions to a "T" and it built fine but I got the following errors on the install. /usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-ld: cannot find -ltme-ieee754 collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status libtool: install: error: relink `tme_ic_m68k.la' with the above command before installing it Makefile:312: recipe for target 'install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES' failed make[4]: *** [install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:470: recipe for target 'install-am' failed make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:464: recipe for target 'install' failed make[2]: *** [install] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:612: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic' Makefile:315: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 I also am also running Ubuntu 18.04. Thanks in advance, Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: I posted this message yesterday, but for some reason people are telling me it never went to the list. I removed the photos I originally attached and am sending it again. -Mark ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Mark Abene* <phiber at phiber.com> Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA To: hecnet at update.uu.se To everyone who asked, I built TME last night on Ubuntu 18.04 on two different systems, and installed NetBSD 1.6.2 on a sun3/160 instance. It's working very nicely, minus networking; bear in mind that TME was originally written to run on a NetBSD host (it's in the pkg collection), and makes use of BPF to implement networking (I seem to remember it also working on FreeBSD). Linux does have a bpf compatibility interface, so I'll see if it can be made to work and follow up with you all. That said, grab TME here: https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz That's the home site, there's lots of info on the emulator https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/ There's also this site, specifically about installing SunOS 4.1.1: http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos411tosun3emulat edintme08onlinux DON'T follow those build instructions, they're incredibly old and will get you nowhere fast. :) Here are my steps: Make sure you have the gtk-2.0 and glib2.0 dev packages installed. Then... mkdir $HOME/tme cd $HOME/tme tar -zxvf your_download_dir/tme-0.8.tar.gz cd tme-0.8 vi libtme/module.c (comment out line 93 "LTDL_SET_PRELOADED_SYMBOLS();", it's no longer needed) and save. ./configure --prefix=$HOME/tme --disable-warnings 'LIBS=-lglib-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lX11' export LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/tme/lib (or "setenv LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH $HOME/tme/lib" for csh/tcsh) make make install If everything built and installed without errors, you'll have the install tree in $HOME/tme. From here you can follow the various instructions on the original site above for installing NetBSD, etc. If you ran into any errors either building, installing, or running, just drop me a note, I'd be happy to help! P.S.: I've attached some photos of it booting up! P.P.S: You'll notice it seg fault when you exit tmesh. The original does this too. The author even comments about how there's no "quit" command. Regards, Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Thanks Mark! -Dave On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote:

Absolutely. I'll dig it out after dinner later tonight. -Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com

<mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote: On 09/18/2018 08:12 PM, Mark Abene wrote: > The TME emulator works fine on Ubuntu with very minor massaging. I

don't

> recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary. > For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If you

like,

I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while.

If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it took to get it running, I'd very much appreciate that. I hacked on it for a

bit

earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

phiber＠phiber.com

5:14 a.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

You need to set the LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH to the correct location, and dynamic libraries work just fine. Also, you can't just copy things after the fact. You'll need to rebuild clean with the --prefix passed to configure with the desired install path. -Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 8:03 PM Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> wrote:

...

Running 'static' still getting same errors. On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 10:46 PM, Jason Stevens < jsteve at superglobalmegacorp.com> wrote:

From memory you really want to do a ?static? build of TME. I?ve always had issues with it finding itself. Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 *From: *Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> *Sent: *Friday, September 21, 2018 10:30 AM *To: *hecnet at update.uu.se *Subject: *Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA Still having problems. It's not seeing any devices. Here's what I get: ./MY-SUN2:8: tme/machine/sun2: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:9: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:10: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:11: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:12: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:13: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:14: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:18: obio0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:19: obio0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:20: obio0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:24: mainbus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:25: tme/generic/bus: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:26: mbmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:30: mbmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:31: sc0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:63: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:64: obmem0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:65: zs1: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:66: zs1: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:67: tme/host/gtk/display: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:68: bwtwo0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:69: kbd0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:70: ms0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:87: scsibus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:88: sd0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:95: scsibus0: No such file or directory ./MY-SUN2:96: st0: No such file or directory tmesh> I copied everything into /usr/local so I don't get what's going wrong. Thanks Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Like I suspected, the autoconfig creates the ic/Makefile with the wrong install order. QUICK FIX: Before you 'make install', edit $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/Makefile and change lines 371 and 372 so that SUBDIRS and DIST_SUBDIRS say "ieee754 m68k sparc stp22xx" (without the quotes), so that "ieee754" appears first, not second. Then a 'make install' should just work without errors. -Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:33 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Excellent! I'll probably go look in the main Makefile and correct the ieee754 library install to happen earlier on, to avoid this error. Have fun, Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> wrote: Mark, It worked like a charm. Thanks. Now the fun begins! Thanks again, Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Oddly enough, I did have that happen on one install but not another. Try this: cd $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/ieee754 make install ...and if that works, try 'make install' again from the main tme-0.8 directory. I suspect some things in the install might be occurring out of order. -Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> wrote: Mark, I followed your instructions to a "T" and it built fine but I got the following errors on the install. /usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-ld: cannot find -ltme-ieee754 collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status libtool: install: error: relink `tme_ic_m68k.la' with the above command before installing it Makefile:312: recipe for target 'install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES' failed make[4]: *** [install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:470: recipe for target 'install-am' failed make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:464: recipe for target 'install' failed make[2]: *** [install] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:612: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic' Makefile:315: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 I also am also running Ubuntu 18.04. Thanks in advance, Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: I posted this message yesterday, but for some reason people are telling me it never went to the list. I removed the photos I originally attached and am sending it again. -Mark ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Mark Abene* <phiber at phiber.com> Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA To: hecnet at update.uu.se To everyone who asked, I built TME last night on Ubuntu 18.04 on two different systems, and installed NetBSD 1.6.2 on a sun3/160 instance. It's working very nicely, minus networking; bear in mind that TME was originally written to run on a NetBSD host (it's in the pkg collection), and makes use of BPF to implement networking (I seem to remember it also working on FreeBSD). Linux does have a bpf compatibility interface, so I'll see if it can be made to work and follow up with you all. That said, grab TME here: https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz That's the home site, there's lots of info on the emulator https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/ There's also this site, specifically about installing SunOS 4.1.1: http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos411tosun3emulatedintme08… DON'T follow those build instructions, they're incredibly old and will get you nowhere fast. :) Here are my steps: Make sure you have the gtk-2.0 and glib2.0 dev packages installed. Then... mkdir $HOME/tme cd $HOME/tme tar -zxvf your_download_dir/tme-0.8.tar.gz cd tme-0.8 vi libtme/module.c (comment out line 93 "LTDL_SET_PRELOADED_SYMBOLS();", it's no longer needed) and save. ./configure --prefix=$HOME/tme --disable-warnings 'LIBS=-lglib-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lX11' export LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/tme/lib (or "setenv LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH $HOME/tme/lib" for csh/tcsh) make make install If everything built and installed without errors, you'll have the install tree in $HOME/tme. From here you can follow the various instructions on the original site above for installing NetBSD, etc. If you ran into any errors either building, installing, or running, just drop me a note, I'd be happy to help! P.S.: I've attached some photos of it booting up! P.P.S: You'll notice it seg fault when you exit tmesh. The original does this too. The author even comments about how there's no "quit" command. Regards, Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Thanks Mark! -Dave On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote:

Absolutely. I'll dig it out after dinner later tonight. -Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com

<mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote: On 09/18/2018 08:12 PM, Mark Abene wrote: > The TME emulator works fine on Ubuntu with very minor massaging.

I don't

> recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary. > For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If you

like,

I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while.

If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it took

get it running, I'd very much appreciate that. I hacked on it for

a bit

earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

supratim＠riseup.net

27 Sep 27 Sep

7:17 a.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

Thank you Mark. I have NetBSD/sun3 (Amnesiac) up and running on Ubuntu 14 32-bit; your instructions are perfect! Supratim On 9/20/2018 20:19, Mark Abene wrote:

...

Oddly enough, I did have that happen on one install but not another. Try this: cd $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/ieee754 make install ...and if that works, try 'make install' again from the main tme-0.8 directory. I suspect some things in the install might be occurring out of order. -Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com <mailto:raywjewhurst at gmail.com>> wrote: Mark, I followed your instructions to a "T" and it built fine but I got the following errors on the install. /usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-ld: cannot find -ltme-ieee754 collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status libtool: install: error: relink `tme_ic_m68k.la <http://tme_ic_m68k.la>' with the above command before installing it Makefile:312: recipe for target 'install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES' failed make[4]: *** [install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:470: recipe for target 'install-am' failed make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:464: recipe for target 'install' failed make[2]: *** [install] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:612: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic' Makefile:315: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 I also am also running Ubuntu 18.04. Thanks in advance, Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com <mailto:phiber at phiber.com>> wrote: I posted this message yesterday, but for some reason people are telling me it never went to the list. I removed the photos I originally attached and am sending it again. -Mark ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Mark Abene* <phiber at phiber.com <mailto:phiber at phiber.com>> Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA To: hecnet at update.uu.se <mailto:hecnet at update.uu.se> To everyone who asked, I built TME last night on Ubuntu 18.04 on two different systems, and installed NetBSD 1.6.2 on a sun3/160 instance. It's working very nicely, minus networking; bear in mind that TME was originally written to run on a NetBSD host (it's in the pkg collection), and makes use of BPF to implement networking (I seem to remember it also working on FreeBSD). Linux does have a bpf compatibility interface, so I'll see if it can be made to work and follow up with you all. That said, grab TME here: https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz <https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz> That's the home site, there's lots of info on the emulator https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/ <https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/> There's also this site, specifically about installing SunOS 4.1.1: http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos411tosun3emulatedintme08… <http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos411tosun3emulatedintme08onlinux> DON'T follow those build instructions, they're incredibly old and will get you nowhere fast.? :) Here are my steps: Make sure you have the gtk-2.0 and glib2.0 dev packages installed. Then... mkdir $HOME/tme cd $HOME/tme tar -zxvf your_download_dir/tme-0.8.tar.gz cd tme-0.8 vi libtme/module.c (comment out line 93 "LTDL_SET_PRELOADED_SYMBOLS();", it's no longer needed) and save. ./configure --prefix=$HOME/tme --disable-warnings 'LIBS=-lglib-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lX11' export LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/tme/lib (or "setenv LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH $HOME/tme/lib" for csh/tcsh) make make install If everything built and installed without errors, you'll have the install tree in $HOME/tme. From here you can follow the various instructions on the original site above for installing NetBSD, etc. If you ran into any errors either building, installing, or running, just drop me a note, I'd be happy to help! P.S.: I've attached some photos of it booting up! P.P.S: You'll notice it seg fault when you exit tmesh. The original does this too. The author even comments about how there's no "quit" command. Regards, Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com <mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote: ? Thanks Mark! ? ? ? ?-Dave On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote:

Absolutely. I'll dig it out after dinner later tonight. -Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Dave McGuire

<mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com

<mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>>> wrote:

? ? ?On 09/18/2018 08:12 PM, Mark Abene wrote: ? ? ?> The TME emulator works fine on Ubuntu with very

minor massaging. I don't

? ? ?> recall having to do anything extremely out of the

ordinary.

? ? ?> For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used

to have. If you like,

? ? ?> I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in

a while.

? ? ?? If you can find any notes that you my have taken

on what it took to

? ? ?get it running, I'd very much appreciate that.? I

hacked on it for a bit

? ? ?earlier this year, but ran out of time and

eventually gave up.

? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave ? ? ?-- ? ? ?Dave McGuire, AK4HZ ? ? ?New Kensington, PA

-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

-- Sent via Thunderbird for Windows 10 on Lenovo Legion Y720

phiber＠phiber.com

7:37 a.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

Awesome! This is a great emulator that shouldn't be forgotten. -Mark On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:17 PM, Supratim Sanyal <supratim at riseup.net> wrote:

...

Thank you Mark. I have NetBSD/sun3 (Amnesiac) up and running on Ubuntu 14 32-bit; your instructions are perfect! Supratim On 9/20/2018 20:19, Mark Abene wrote: Oddly enough, I did have that happen on one install but not another. Try this: cd $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/ieee754 make install ...and if that works, try 'make install' again from the main tme-0.8 directory. I suspect some things in the install might be occurring out of order. -Mark On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> wrote:

-- Sent via Thunderbird for Windows 10 on Lenovo Legion Y720

supratim＠riseup.net

2 Oct 2 Oct

5:33 p.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

...

On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:37 AM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Awesome! This is a great emulator that shouldn't be forgotten. -Mark

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:17 PM, Supratim Sanyal <supratim at riseup.net> wrote: Thank you Mark. I have NetBSD/sun3 (Amnesiac) up and running on Ubuntu 14 32-bit; your instructions are perfect! Supratim

On 9/20/2018 20:19, Mark Abene wrote: Oddly enough, I did have that happen on one install but not another. Try this: cd $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/ieee754 make install ...and if that works, try 'make install' again from the main tme-0.8 directory. I suspect some things in the install might be occurring out of order. -Mark

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> wrote: Mark, I followed your instructions to a "T" and it built fine but I got the following errors on the install. /usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-ld: cannot find -ltme-ieee754 collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status libtool: install: error: relink `tme_ic_m68k.la' with the above command before installing it Makefile:312: recipe for target 'install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES' failed make[4]: *** [install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:470: recipe for target 'install-am' failed make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:464: recipe for target 'install' failed make[2]: *** [install] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k' Makefile:612: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic' Makefile:315: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 I also am also running Ubuntu 18.04. Thanks in advance, Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: > I posted this message yesterday, but for some reason people are telling me it never went to the list. > I removed the photos I originally attached and am sending it again. > > -Mark > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> > Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:58 PM > Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA > To: hecnet at update.uu.se > > > To everyone who asked, I built TME last night on Ubuntu 18.04 on two different systems, and installed NetBSD 1.6.2 on a sun3/160 instance. > It's working very nicely, minus networking; bear in mind that TME was originally written to run on a NetBSD host (it's in the pkg collection), and makes use of BPF to implement networking (I seem to remember it also working on FreeBSD). Linux does have a bpf compatibility interface, so I'll see if it can be made to work and follow up with you all. That said, grab TME here: https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz > That's the home site, there's lots of info on the emulator https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/ > There's also this site, specifically about installing SunOS 4.1.1: http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos411tosun3emulatedintme08… > DON'T follow those build instructions, they're incredibly old and will get you nowhere fast. :) > > Here are my steps: > Make sure you have the gtk-2.0 and glib2.0 dev packages installed. Then... > mkdir $HOME/tme > cd $HOME/tme > tar -zxvf your_download_dir/tme-0.8.tar.gz > cd tme-0.8 > vi libtme/module.c (comment out line 93 "LTDL_SET_PRELOADED_SYMBOLS();", it's no longer needed) and save. > ./configure --prefix=$HOME/tme --disable-warnings 'LIBS=-lglib-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lX11' > export LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/tme/lib (or "setenv LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH $HOME/tme/lib" for csh/tcsh) > make > make install > > If everything built and installed without errors, you'll have the install tree in $HOME/tme. From here you can follow the various instructions on the original site above for installing NetBSD, etc. > > If you ran into any errors either building, installing, or running, just drop me a note, I'd be happy to help! > > P.S.: I've attached some photos of it booting up! > P.P.S: You'll notice it seg fault when you exit tmesh. The original does this too. The author even comments about how there's no "quit" command. > > Regards, > Mark > > > >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks Mark! >> >> -Dave >> >> On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote: >> > Absolutely. I'll dig it out after dinner later tonight. >> > >> > -Mark >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com >> > <mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote: >> > >> > On 09/18/2018 08:12 PM, Mark Abene wrote: >> > > The TME emulator works fine on Ubuntu with very minor massaging. I don't >> > > recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary. >> > > For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If you like, >> > > I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while. >> > >> > If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it took to >> > get it running, I'd very much appreciate that. I hacked on it for a bit >> > earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up. >> > >> > -Dave >> > >> > -- >> > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >> > New Kensington, PA >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >> New Kensington, PA > >

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New subject: Sunlink DNA

The problem is Linux's bpf isn't a drop in replacement for BSD bpf, so there's some work there, and I've been busy with my primary work. However, it should be possible to set up slip or ppp by designating a serial port in the tme config. I'd recommend using the "socat" utility to create a pair of ptys, one for host, one for tme, to do slip or ppp over. I haven't yet looked at the tme serial code, but this would be the first thing I would try, since it shouldn't require any major code changes. -Mark On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 8:33 AM Supratim Sanyal <supratim at riseup.net> wrote:

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Mark, Are there any other options than you writing code for TME-Linux to be network enabled (re: the BPF thingy)? Is it possible to create some sort of dummy NIC or some such thing to fool TME into thinking it has a working /dev/bpf0 ? Thanks Supratim On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:37 AM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: Awesome! This is a great emulator that shouldn't be forgotten. -Mark On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:17 PM, Supratim Sanyal <supratim at riseup.net> wrote:

I posted this message yesterday, but for some reason people are telling me it never went to the list. I removed the photos I originally attached and am sending it again. -Mark ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA To: hecnet at update.uu.se To everyone who asked, I built TME last night on Ubuntu 18.04 on two different systems, and installed NetBSD 1.6.2 on a sun3/160 instance. It's working very nicely, minus networking; bear in mind that TME was originally written to run on a NetBSD host (it's in the pkg collection), and makes use of BPF to implement networking (I seem to remember it also working on FreeBSD). Linux does have a bpf compatibility interface, so I'll see if it can be made to work and follow up with you all. That said, grab TME here: https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz That's the home site, there's lots of info on the emulator https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/ There's also this site, specifically about installing SunOS 4.1.1: http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos411tosun3emulatedintme08… DON'T follow those build instructions, they're incredibly old and will get you nowhere fast. :) Here are my steps: Make sure you have the gtk-2.0 and glib2.0 dev packages installed. Then... mkdir $HOME/tme cd $HOME/tme tar -zxvf your_download_dir/tme-0.8.tar.gz cd tme-0.8 vi libtme/module.c (comment out line 93 "LTDL_SET_PRELOADED_SYMBOLS();", it's no longer needed) and save. ./configure --prefix=$HOME/tme --disable-warnings 'LIBS=-lglib-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lX11' export LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/tme/lib (or "setenv LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH $HOME/tme/lib" for csh/tcsh) make make install If everything built and installed without errors, you'll have the install tree in $HOME/tme. From here you can follow the various instructions on the original site above for installing NetBSD, etc. If you ran into any errors either building, installing, or running, just drop me a note, I'd be happy to help! P.S.: I've attached some photos of it booting up! P.P.S: You'll notice it seg fault when you exit tmesh. The original does this too. The author even comments about how there's no "quit" command. Regards, Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: > > Thanks Mark! > > -Dave > > On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote: > > Absolutely. I'll dig it out after dinner later tonight. > > > > -Mark > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com > > <mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote: > > > > On 09/18/2018 08:12 PM, Mark Abene wrote: > > > The TME emulator works fine on Ubuntu with very minor > massaging. I don't > > > recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary. > > > For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If > you like, > > > I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while. > > > > If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it > took to > > get it running, I'd very much appreciate that. I hacked on it > for a bit > > earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up. > > > > -Dave > > > > -- > > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ > > New Kensington, PA > > > > > > > -- > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ > New Kensington, PA >

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3:31 a.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

Hi, I found this page dedicated to Sun2 emulation using TME. It has some tips for SunOS. http://www.heeltoe.com/index.php?n=Retro.Sun2 Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote:

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Thanks Mark! -Dave On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote:

I don't

> recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary. > For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If you

like,

I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while.

If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it took

get it running, I'd very much appreciate that. I hacked on it for

a bit

earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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3:39 a.m.

New subject: Sunlink DNA

I was going to mention that site. I went through some fun to get Research Unix 9 running, and there was great tips + patches. https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2017/04/01/research-unix-v9/ I had ued Debian 4 to build it, as I found an ?era correct? build environment less of a fight. I think I have a pre-compiled x86 binary in there. https://sourceforge.net/projects/bsd42/files/4BSD%20under%20Windows/v0/SUN3… Sent from my Windows 10 device From: Ray Jewhurst Sent: Friday, 21 September 2018 9:32 AM To: hecnet at update.uu.se Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA Hi, I found this page dedicated to Sun2 emulation using TME.? It has some tips for SunOS. http://www.heeltoe.com/index.php?n=Retro.Sun2 Ray On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote: I posted this message yesterday, but for some reason people are telling me it never went to the list. I removed the photos I originally attached and am sending it again. -Mark ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA To: hecnet at update.uu.se To everyone who asked, I built TME last night on Ubuntu 18.04 on two different systems, and installed NetBSD 1.6.2 on a sun3/160 instance. It's working very nicely, minus networking; bear in mind that TME was originally written to run on a NetBSD host (it's in the pkg collection), and makes use of BPF to implement networking (I seem to remember it also working on FreeBSD). Linux does have a bpf compatibility interface, so I'll see if it can be made to work and follow up with you all. That said, grab TME here:?https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz That's the home site, there's lots of info on the emulator?https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/ There's also this site, specifically about installing SunOS 4.1.1:?http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos411tosun3emulated… DON'T follow those build instructions, they're incredibly old and will get you nowhere fast.? :) Here are my steps: Make sure you have the gtk-2.0 and glib2.0 dev packages installed. Then... mkdir $HOME/tme cd $HOME/tme tar -zxvf your_download_dir/tme-0.8.tar.gz cd tme-0.8 vi libtme/module.c (comment out line 93 "LTDL_SET_PRELOADED_SYMBOLS();", it's no longer needed) and save. ./configure --prefix=$HOME/tme --disable-warnings 'LIBS=-lglib-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lX11' export LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/tme/lib (or "setenv LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH $HOME/tme/lib" for csh/tcsh) make make install If everything built and installed without errors, you'll have the install tree in $HOME/tme. From here you can follow the various instructions on the original site above for installing NetBSD, etc. If you ran into any errors either building, installing, or running, just drop me a note, I'd be happy to help! P.S.: I've attached some photos of it booting up! P.P.S: You'll notice it seg fault when you exit tmesh. The original does this too. The author even comments about how there's no "quit" command. Regards, Mark On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: ? Thanks Mark! ? ? ? ?-Dave On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote:

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