That is probably a story when the first thin wire repeaters were introduced. The h4000-aa wouldn't play nice when connected to a dempr or despr. The h4000-ba fixed that, or you could cut a capacitor (?) on the -aa and save money. A transceiver was 1200 guilders at the time. Dec's thick wire repeaters (derep-ab and -rd) worked for me. One is still in use today... Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone. Origineel bericht Van: Clement T. Cole Verzonden: zaterdag 28 februari 2015 23:00 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Maximum number of L2 routers? Right. And many of the repeaters tended to not work well. DEC had wholes name I forget - that was pretty much the only one that worked reliably. I have bad memories of repeater created issues where host A one seg1 just would not talk to host b on seg2 but c & d could talk to both and each other Sent from my iPad On Feb 28, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2015-02-28 21:21, Hans Vlems wrote: Yeah of course you can have more than one L2 router in an area, didn't think of it :) :-) About the 10base5 segment, that was limited in length to 500 meters. Transceivers must be at least 2.5 meters apart, hence the 200 nodes. This was before a DELNI was invented. If my failing memory doesn't fail me that 200 node limit remained the same with Delni's. But you were allowed to bridge several segments (using repeaters). I think the maximum distance, including hops, between any two nodes had to be within 1000m, but you could also do stars... You were not allowed to have more than two repeaters I also seem to remember. Johnny Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone. Origineel bericht Van: Johnny Billquist Verzonden: zaterdag 28 februari 2015 20:55 Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Maximum number of L2 routers? On 2015-02-28 20:51, Hans Vlems wrote: 64:-)? You can definitely have more than one L2 router per area... :-) I don't know for sure, as you probably have guessed... There is an ncp executor parameter called maximum broadcast routers, default value 32 iirc. Is there an architectural limit, depends on what you mean by ethernet segment. A 10base5 segment was limited to 200 nodes. 64 L2 routers might put a hefty broadcast load on it. On an extended ethernet LAN there is likely no technical limit. Really? I have some vague memory of some limit of an ethernet segment, but I can't recall any details now. Why 200? Johnny Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone. Origineel bericht Van: Jordi Guillaumes i Pons Verzonden: zaterdag 28 februari 2015 20:37 Aan: HECnet Mailing List Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: [HECnet] Maximum number of L2 routers? Hello, list, I'm trying to remember what is the maximum number of area routers allowed in a DECNET Phase IV ethernet segment. Anyone of you have that information at hand? On other news, the old macbook I was using as home server has died, after years of service beyond the call of duty. I'm setting up my stuff using several smallish ARM computers. To be specific, now I'm running a cubietruck and and Odroid-C1 (and a raspberry Pi as router/firewall). I'm having trouble with the net connectivity, so some yo-yo disconnects from area 7 should be expected. Not so hard as last sunday, but I'm still doing quite a lot of reboots. BTW, the SG1 multinet link seems to be down again (unless it is a problem in my side, which is completely possible). -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol