Might be a problem for you, my end won't care - OSI does Phase IV quite OK-ish. Pain in the ass to manage though. sampsa On 25 Dec 2012, at 21:54, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 25 Dec 2012, at 14:28, sampsa at mac.com wrote: On 25 Dec 2012, at 21:27, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On 25 Dec 2012, at 14:25, sampsa at mac.com wrote: 46.65.175.115 (gvax.sampsa.com) Circuit is up on my end. Okay. it'll be a bit for me I forgot his router password and I need an area for this. ;) Well, ask Johnny for an area then - and get your nodes into the DB :) Will it be a problem that all of these systems are DECnet-OSI? Sampsa