On 2014-05-30 21:08, Bob Armstrong wrote: the stupid CONFIGURE brain damage. I saw that - a 500 block DCL script is kinda scary, but at least it doesn't crash. Personally, I'm happy with vi on unix and EDT on VMS. EDT (and EVE) are really only useful to me if I have a real VTxxx keyboard. My right hand knows all the keypad sequences, and can't be reprogrammed for any PC key layout. Agree. vi is, well, evil. The only command I know is :quit! (gotta have the bang!) for the few times I accidentally get into it :-) Agree twice on that. :-) Emacs is just way too heavyweigh with unnecessary features. You mean "gnu emacs..." and with that I absolutely agree, but I don't know any other emacs alternative that's been ported to VMS. AMIS. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol