sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +44 7961 149465 On 29 Nov 2013, at 08:26, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at Update.UU.SE> wrote: On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:27:42PM +0000, Sampsa Laine wrote: I think we'll need some kind of driving license system for running servers at some point, this botnet stuff is just ridiculous :) I don't believe in that. But I've always wondered why ISPs aren't more proactive. You'd think it is in their interest and they should have the expertise. I wasn't entirely serious but the level of Stupid seems to be growing daily..