My Multinet link to area 59 is down, but LEGATO thinks area 59 is accessible thru CEIRE, which thinks that it's accessible thru A54RTR. The latter box apparently doesn't speak NML (or won't talk to me) so I can't ask it what's going on. Peter??? Are you out there?? Is area 59 up or down??? And what's A54RTR? Hi Bob, At least one of the Peters involved is here :-) A54RTR is a Cisco IGS which has GRE tunnels to area 59 on test. It appears the more standard connection from area 59 to the rest of Hecnet (via SG1 perhaps?) is down. A similar thing is going on with area 52 (CEIRE -> A54RTR -> ???) although I don't have a Multinet link in this instance. Are there any machines in area 52 actually up? Area 52 appears to be reachable via area 59. It looks likely that area 52 should also be reachable via SG1 but isn't. The router(s) in area 52 and 59 don't appear to speak (much) NML either.