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14 Nov
'24
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On 2024-11-13 14:20, Paul Koning wrote:
By "bug" I meant "specification
bug". The author of the DNA NetMan
spec messed up here. Yes, VMS faithfully follows that bad design.
The bugfix amounts to fixing the text of the spec, then changing the
implementations to match the corrected text. I don't know if the
former has ever been done but obviously a number of DECnet
implementations acted as if had been. :-)
I have Alpha VMS listings kits, but stupidly gave away my VAX listings.
Should someone send me a pointer to where a 7.3 listings kit can be
found, I'll try to find and fix it when I get back from vacation next
month.
On VMS, DECnet is a System Integrated Product (SIP) so it _should_ be
in the listings kit, but no guarantees.
Yes, I do have a listings license and had VAX/VMS on support at the
time V7.3 came out, so if someone wants me to "show my papers" be-
fore they'll give me access, I can do that...
On Nov 13,
2024, at 1:53 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt(a)softjar.se> wrote:
I would not call it a bug. It was initially defined that way. However,
RSX officially decided to start treating it as an unsigned 16-bit
value with the last releases, and documented this.
And it's a change that do make sense.
But if others have not applied the same update, then it makes sense
that they would zero the value if it have the high bit set.
Johnny
On 2024-11-13 19:26, Paul Koning wrote:
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To unsubscribe send an email to hecnet-leave(a)lists.dfupdate.se The statement in the DECnet spec that julian
half-day is 15 bits is
an obvious bug with an obvious fix; clearly RSX and others have made
that fix. VMS needs to do likewise.
paul
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To unsubscribe send an email to hecnet-leave(a)lists.dfupdate.se On Nov 13, 2024, at 12:50 PM, John Forecast
<john(a)forecast.name
<mailto:john@forecast.name>> wrote:
Depends on the implementation. Nov 9, 2021 on VMS, Ultrix and
probably some others. RSX is good until 2065.
John.
> On Nov 13, 2024, at 10:24 AM, Keith Halewood
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> <mailto:Keith.Halewood@pitbulluk.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> It has been mentioned elsewhere and maybe a while back too but I’m
> not quite sure when DECnet (VAX/VMS 7.3) started serving up jewels
> like:
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