Meh. Nice idea perhaps, but not working. Oh well. There are some possible tricks anyway. You could create a file on the remote machine if allowed, and check the = timestamp. You can also check local time using remote datatrieve. If you have a decnet-aware finger server, that might tell you. And of course, if you can log in or run remote jobs, anything can be = done. But how about expanding the host.txt file (or whatever the name was)? Johnny -- I can find out how my clock is compared to UTC by looking in Circular-T... _:) -P