On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, Bob Armstrong wrote: It could be more complicated than that... here's my setup, tell me what you think: [Internet]----[router]~~~wireless~~~[laptop]-----[Alpha and VAX] You'll have to get all those gateways to pass packets on port 700, for sure. I don't think Johnny's program will be any different, though, except for the port number. I could be wrong, though. Bob The networking isn't that hard, but I don't know if I would trust a laptop over wireless to handle your traffic. Most of the Linksys wireless setups also have a 4 line switch that you could plug a cat5 hardline into. I'm not sure if I understand correctly that he is using a router AND a Linksys or if he is just using the Linksys as his connection to the internet. I'm currently using both in my home network and just set the Linksys to router (instead of gateway) so that I only have to setup the reverse NAT forwards on my firewall. This works perfectly for my interior network as well as the IRLP node that I setup for my brother. Sorry Bob, I still am missing a SCSI cdrom drive (should never toss those) to get VMS 8.3 installed on my AlphaStations or I would probably be online already (have the cd, just not the time). It's been a very long time for me since sitting behind VMS 4.6, I'm sure the help I'll need is the basics instead of getting on HECnet. I found an old MicroVax 3100 at school, got it running (it's running VMS 5.4), but for the life of me, I can't think of what I need to do to add entries into the UAF for new users. Also noticed when it came up all the licenses had expired. What do I need to do to get the hobby licenses from HP when I get 8.3 running? Thanks. Brett