On 1/13/2014 9:35 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: Anybody know what happened with that discussion re: EISNER and HECnet? Also, is EISNER even up any more? I can't seem to connect to it. sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +44 7961 149465 Eisner is down for a physical move. Last I saw posted was on 7-Jan-2014 on comp.os.vms was that they expected it back up "soon". It was moving from Wisconsin to the Nemonix HQ in Massachusetts. https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/comp.os.vms/qh3oFl11Olw John H. Reinhardt