G. <gerry77 at mail.com> writes: On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:06:29 -0500, you wrote: SYS$STARTUP:SYLOGIN.COM? I thought it was in SYS$MANAGER? If it's in the right place, both logicals will work :) try sho log sys$startup and sho log sys$manager :) SYS$STARTUP is a searchlist which comprises SYS$MANAGER. $ SHOW LOGICAL SYS$STARTUP "SYS$STARTUP" = "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYS$STARTUP]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) = "SYS$MANAGER" 1 "SYS$MANAGER" = "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.