On 01/08/2013 02:38 PM, G. wrote: I've always wondered about VMS sources: how they are actually distributed today and how much space they take? Is a CD-ROM enough for everything? And in which format are they? Just simple text files in a bunch of directories or there is something fancier such as some cross references and indexes? They used to make source *listings* available on fiche; I have several sets of those. It's a stack of fiche maybe 3-4" thick. But the main question is: where can they be obtained? Is HP still selling them and how much they would cost? A figure with too many zeroes, right? :/ For a currently-developed high-end OS for high-end hardware in the application space in which VMS is typically used, yes, lots of zeros. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA