Guys, I'm trying to find the 'best' way to archive the contents of the CDROMs, and failing to find a solution. Using COPY DKA400:[000000...]*.*;* DSA3:[MEDIA.VAX_MEDIA.path...]*.*;* works but doesn't preseve the timestamps. The obvious solution is to use BACKUP, but a command such as: BACKUP/VERIFY DKA400:[000000...] DSA3:[MEDIA.VAX_MEDIA.path...] which is what the help would have you believe does the right thing doesn't work - you get a weird file structure where files in subdirectories are created in the top of the destination and the directory structure is only partially created. Am I doing something obviously wrong here? Cheers, Mark.