On 06/06/2013 08:19 AM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: Damn! I work in federal govt and we have numerous (3 digits) VMS hosts world-wide t= hat never gave us any trouble (especially compared to windoze).=20 Really? According to HP's Lorraine Bartlett VP BCS Marketing & Strategy who gave a keynote at the recent OpenVMS Bootcamp in mid-March, there were less than 200 VMS customers and none were in Gov't. So is she clueless, or is she a liar? Resellers were still offering big bucks for VAX-7800 CPU modules as recently as ~2 years ago, specifically for the Pentagon. And those are VAXen, for chrissakes! I, and those in attendance, knew better. Yep. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA