24 Apr
2015
24 Apr
'15
4:16 p.m.
Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net> writes:
I think we could get away with adding Alpha circa
92' - after all it was STI=
LL DEC at that point.=20
I have an ES45 in a short rack with 32GB 4-way interleaved memory, 4 CPUs
and it's configured as a Galaxy (2 instances) which is a way cool thing to
demo. However, the ES is tagged with Compaq.
I do have several DEC "tagged" Alphas.
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24 Apr
24 Apr
4:25 p.m.
New subject: Galaxy question
Brian,
do you know whether it is possible to configure a 2-instance galaxy
on an Alpha Server 1200 (or possibly a DS20E)?
That is the only hardware with more than 1 cpu that have.
Hans
4:34 p.m.
New subject: BLISS question
I'm cleaning up the attic and found a primer on BLISS as well as
a BLISS reference manual.
It's been a long time (1980-ish) since I'd last seen it and I wanted
to refresh (well, actually update) my knowledge of that language.
Now the primer refers to TUTIO.R32, which I found on a VAX.
However I want to play with it on an Alpha (runs cooler than the VAX).
After installing the BLISS kit that is on the freeware CD's there
still was no STARLET.L32 (nor STARLET.L64) file in SYS$LIBRARY.
TUTIO.R32 refers to STARLET.L32 so how do I get it?
Hans
4:55 p.m.
New subject: BLISS question
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
I'm cleaning up the attic and found a primer on
BLISS as well as
a BLISS reference manual.
It's been a long time (1980-ish) since I'd last seen it and I wanted
to refresh (well, actually update) my knowledge of that language.
Now the primer refers to TUTIO.R32, which I found on a VAX.
However I want to play with it on an Alpha (runs cooler than the VAX).
After installing the BLISS kit that is on the freeware CD's there
still was no STARLET.L32 (nor STARLET.L64) file in SYS$LIBRARY.
TUTIO.R32 refers to STARLET.L32 so how do I get it?
You can to the right place, there are not many of us (BLISS programmers)
left.
TUTIO.R32 might not be anywhere in the kits. I'm pretty sure I have it
floating around (I'll go have a look). As for creating the libraries, you
can use:
$ BLISS/LIBRARY=SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB] SYS$LIBRARY:STARLET.REQ
$ BLISS/LIBRARY=SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB] SYS$LIBRARY:LIB.REQ
That will give you the 32-bit stuff. For the 64-bit, you need to add in
the right qualifier. For Alpha it is BLISS/A64 and for Itanium it is
BLISS/I64.
Incidentally, if you ever decide you don't want those BLISS manuals, you
are more than welcome to send them my way. I have a small collection of
manuals, books and internal DEC training material on this stuff. I'm
hoping to get most of it on-line real soon now (http://bliss-lang.org when
it is eventually done...).
Regards, Tim.
5:12 p.m.
New subject: BLISS question
Tim,
I have three pdf files:
- BLISS for C programmers - this comes from the Freeware cd's
- VAX-11 BLISS-32 User's Guide
- BLISS reference manual
All three together, zip-ed are 14.6 MB, I can mail them if you like.
Thanks for solving the starlet riddle!
Hans
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] BLISS question
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
I'm cleaning up the attic and found a primer on BLISS as well as
a BLISS reference manual.
It's been a long time (1980-ish) since I'd last seen it and I wanted
to refresh (well, actually update) my knowledge of that language.
Now the primer refers to TUTIO.R32, which I found on a VAX.
However I want to play with it on an Alpha (runs cooler than the VAX).
After installing the BLISS kit that is on the freeware CD's there
still was no STARLET.L32 (nor STARLET.L64) file in SYS$LIBRARY.
TUTIO.R32 refers to STARLET.L32 so how do I get it?
You can to the right place, there are not many of us (BLISS programmers)
left.
TUTIO.R32 might not be anywhere in the kits. I'm pretty sure I have it
floating around (I'll go have a look). As for creating the libraries, you
can use:
$ BLISS/LIBRARY=SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB] SYS$LIBRARY:STARLET.REQ
$ BLISS/LIBRARY=SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB] SYS$LIBRARY:LIB.REQ
That will give you the 32-bit stuff. For the 64-bit, you need to add in the
right qualifier. For Alpha it is BLISS/A64 and for Itanium it is BLISS/I64.
Incidentally, if you ever decide you don't want those BLISS manuals, you are
more than welcome to send them my way. I have a small collection of
manuals, books and internal DEC training material on this stuff. I'm hoping
to get most of it on-line real soon now (http://bliss-lang.org when it is
eventually done...).
Regards, Tim.
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5:42 p.m.
New subject: BLISS question
I have three pdf files:
If you can, put them up on the Internet where I can download them too,
please. Or just email me a copy if you'd prefer.
- BLISS reference manual
Is that the BLISS-10 (not 36!) manual? If not, I have a printed copy of
the BLISS-10 manual around here somewhere that I could scan.
Apparently at one time, long, long ago, I was also a BLISS programmer. At
least I still have copies of ancient BLISS-10 programs with my name on them,
but it's been 30-40 years now and I no longer remember writing them J
Bob
5:54 p.m.
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New subject: BLISS question
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote:
I'm cleaning up the attic and found a primer on
BLISS as well as
a BLISS reference manual.
It's been a long time (1980-ish) since I'd last seen it and I wanted
to refresh (well, actually update) my knowledge of that language.
Now the primer refers to TUTIO.R32, which I found on a VAX.
However I want to play with it on an Alpha (runs cooler than the VAX).
After installing the BLISS kit that is on the freeware CD's there
still was no STARLET.L32 (nor STARLET.L64) file in SYS$LIBRARY.
TUTIO.R32 refers to STARLET.L32 so how do I get it?
You can find TUTIO.R32 at:
http://ftp.endlesssoftware.com.au/bliss
Regards, Tim.
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