A few days ago a "TELL 1.13 SHOW KNOWN NODES" from 42.42 BET:: was very = slow. It's probably 4 times faster now. I don't know if I'm passing = through your part of the net to get to Johnny. Seems like you are; NCP>tell mim show node bet 20:55:46 NCP Request # 114 Accepted NCP> 20:55:47 NCP Request # 114; Show Node Summary Completed Node State Active Delay Circuit Next node links 42.42 (BET) 0 4 59.11 (DIMMA) I think we can even make this better... Set up a (cisco) tunnel to 130.238.19.60 (and tell me your side IP address). Set the metric you have on the old tunnel(s) to me to cost 20. Set the cost for the new tunnel to 10. --P