I think Royal Holloway (Uni. London) still uses a pair of 4100s for student registration and print management. That was a few years ago though. On 10 Oct 2011, at 21:30, Mark Wickens wrote: On 10/10/11 17:43, MG wrote: On 10-10-2011 17:49, Mark Wickens wrote: Randomly found this site: http://vms.cc.wmich.edu/www/openvms.html Nice example of VMS still out in the wild... What do you mean by 'still'? - MG I was talking to someone at the DEC Legacy event about the erosion of DEC kit in Universities and Colleges after Microsoft's anti-trust law suit the settlement of which required Microsoft to give away copies of Windows. DEC didn't follow suit.