IIRC CDE became available on Alpha well before Compaq took over. BTW real DECwindows is called VWS and runs on vax/vms pre V5.0 :-) -----Original Message----- From: Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:53:10 To: <hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: Re: [HECnet] Sweet, now I can make my Ubuntu boxes look like VMS :) On 14 Aug 2012, at 07:40, Sampsa Laine wrote: The default desktop environment on DECWindows is CDE. At least on my Alphas and Itaniums.. No, I mean REAL DECWindows! ;) On Alpha you can select either DECWindows (I think it's called that, may be DW-MOTIF or something) or CDE. When faced with the option on DEC systems, the original DECWindows is... more authentic :) CDE was somewhat of a late addition as far as I know, I think HP or Compaq grafted it in, probably HP as it's used on HP-UX. I don't think CDE is available on 7.3 VAX... -- Mark Benson http://DECtec.info Twitter: @DECtecInfo HECnet: STAR69::MARK Online Resource & Mailing List for DEC Enthusiasts.