On 02/13/2013 12:53 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: I can believe that the 11/84 made the 11/44 obsolete, however. They fulfill the same niche, with the 11/84 being faster, smaller and probably cheaper. How is the 11/84 smaller? It was available in two chassis: one that's takes up about two feet of rack space, and one standard 6U box. The 11/44 is a 6U box as well. Were there other packagings of these machines of which I'm unaware? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA