Stuart Martin <wavey at wavey.org> writes: I couldn't be happier with the DS10L's performance (mine is the one Rob's been using). It does make a little too much noise, but even the missus has become used to it being on the whole time in our study. It also running with a shadowset on the system disk, which does noticeably slow it down. I don't find the DS10L I have here to be too onerously loud. It's extremely quiet compared to some other kit here. A shadow set system disk should not slow things down. What disks have you combined to form this shadow set? If you want to slow it down, put the system on an IDE which the DS10L provides support for!!! I'd like an itanium, but I haven't heard of one which is reasonable enough on the power front to warrant being on for extended periods of time. The DS10L is around 180W, which is not *too* bad. I'll have to plug in my watt meter and see just how much my Itaniums do actually consume; however, bang (CPU speed) for the buck (power use), I would wager that the Itanium is better. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.