Here LEGATO gives adjacent node listener receive timeouts too. Probably not surprising - all HECnet Ethernet traffic from LEGATO goes thru Johnny's bridge and psilo, so nobody on HECnet would see any better results than MIM. I don't exactly know how to go about figuring out where the bottleneck is. "ping Psilo.Update.UU.SE" and traceroute give trip times of about 190ms, which doesn't seem outrageous. The hello timer on circuit QNA-1 on LEGATO (which is what I assume to be the relevant parameter here) is set to 15 seconds. I don't know what the corresponding timeout is on the MIM side, but maybe Johnny will tell us. In any case, changing the QNA-1 hello timer to 5 seconds just for fun didn't seem to make much difference, so the problem is likely that packets are being lost somewhere. Bob