How about a HECnet wiki that has a quick reference guide and a link to a mail archive? I think it's a great idea, but Johnny has always opposed a mail archive for HECnet. I suppose you could always just archive a copy of the messages yourself, but that seems silly. We should just use a mailing list manager (e.g. GNU mailman) that has a web interface and an archive. If you can get it past Johnny, then go for it. Bob