On (18:04 14/10/09), Mark Wickens wrote: Yes, I have version 5.5 of both of them (shipped with Alpha Layered Products version 8.3) Great, thanks. I can get them up onto a hecnet accessible drive, or an ftp site - let me know which you'd prefer. It'd have to be ftp for now. I need to get my new Linux box up and running before I can get hooked-up to Hecnet. Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Back a at smokebelch.org