But HECnet as a whole is not connected to this segment... I thought the majority of it was... There are a few people, like me, who are using Multinet but only a few cases. I thought pretty much everything was bridged. [FWIW, Multinet tunnels a point-to-point DECnet link, essentially like a DDCMP link, over UDP. For that you really need to have a router at either end to pass traffic for other machines on either LAN.] Bob