28 May
2016
28 May
'16
10:35 p.m.
VMS 5.4
I have a tape with a VMS backup saveset. It has a directory tree on the tape
[foo]
[foo.bar]
[foo.bar.barf]
How do I (backup command line) restore the tape as a subdirectry and have
backup to create the needed directories under my new "root" like [tapes]?
Say that I want to put it under
[tapes.foo]
[tapes.foo.bar]
etc
??
-P
28 May
28 May
11:49 p.m.
$ backup mua0:mysaveset.bck dua3:[tape...]
Note that Backup doesn't require a /saveset qualifier if the saveset is on a tape.
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Van: Peter Lothberg
Verzonden: zaterdag 28 mei 2016 22:35
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Onderwerp: [HECnet] VMS 5.4 backup
VMS 5.4
I have a tape with a VMS backup saveset. It has a directory tree on the tape
[foo]
[foo.bar]
[foo.bar.barf]
How do I (backup command line) restore the tape as a subdirectry and have
backup to create the needed directories under my new "root" like [tapes]?
Say that I want to put it under
[tapes.foo]
[tapes.foo.bar]
etc
??
-P
29 May
29 May
6:06 a.m.
$define/translation=(concealed,terminal) foo _dua0:[what.ever.tapes.]
$backup/log/verify saveset foo:[*...]
Note the trailing "." in the logical - don't omit that! Also notice that
you must use a physical device name in the logical definition.
Bob
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Subject: [HECnet] VMS 5.4 backup
VMS 5.4
I have a tape with a VMS backup saveset. It has a directory tree on the tape
[foo] [foo.bar] [foo.bar.barf]
How do I (backup command line) restore the tape as a subdirectry and have
backup to create the needed directories under my new "root" like [tapes]?
Say that I want to put it under
[tapes.foo]
[tapes.foo.bar]
etc
??
-P
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10:37 a.m.
$define/translation=(concealed,terminal) foo
_dua0:[what.ever.tapes.]
$backup/log/verify saveset foo:[*...]
Note the trailing "." in the logical - don't omit that! Also notice
that
you must use a physical device name in the logical definition.
Thanks.
Next problem, there is a read error on the tape, how do I tell backup
to give up and continue with the rest of the save set, if possible?
--P
10:50 a.m.
With tapes you'd better get the data off the media and to a disk.
First off, clean the tape heads!
- try a straight forward copy: this may fail for several reasons depending on what tape
you have.
- use backup to perform the copy
?$ backup mua0:*.* ?dua4:[savesets]/log
Should that fail, try to mount the tape foreign and use copy. If VMS complains then SET
RMS may be useful.
Good luck
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Onderwerp: RE: [HECnet] VMS 5.4 backup
$define/translation=(concealed,terminal) foo
_dua0:[what.ever.tapes.]
$backup/log/verify saveset foo:[*...]
Note the trailing "." in the logical - don't omit that! Also notice that
you must use a physical device name in the logical definition.
Thanks.
Next problem, there is a read error on the tape, how do I tell backup
to give up and continue with the rest of the save set, if possible?
--P
10:57 a.m.
On 2016-05-29 10:50, Hans Vlems wrote:
With tapes you'd better get the data off the media
and to a disk.
I think that is what Peter is doing... :-)
First off, clean the tape heads!
Always a good suggestion.
- try a straight forward copy: this may fail for
several reasons depending on what tape you have.
- use backup to perform the copy
$ backup mua0:*.* ?dua4:[savesets]/log
Should that fail, try to mount the tape foreign and use copy. If VMS complains then SET
RMS may be useful.
Not sure what the point was here. The actual reading from the tape runs
through the save device driver in all three cases, so any tape error
handling will be the same. However, backup might have additional
recovery heuristics to deal with possible read errors. Copying the file
to disk will most likely defeat any recovery ability in backup, so I
don't really see much gain in doing that. If the tape can be read, all
the methods work equally well. If the tape can't be read, copying will
possibly loose more information than using backup, but in either case,
and unrecoverable error that would prevent any further operation will
act the same with all methods.
So, back to Peter's question - I don't know the answer. Is there a way
to tell backup to stop at errors instead of continuing? (I guess I could
fire up a VMS system, and read help pages, but I'm sure there are people
here who already have this available and can check things up.)
Johnny
Good luck
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$define/translation=(concealed,terminal) foo
_dua0:[what.ever.tapes.]
$backup/log/verify saveset foo:[*...]
Note the trailing "." in the logical - don't omit that! Also notice that
you must use a physical device name in the logical definition.
Thanks.
Next problem, there is a read error on the tape, how do I tell backup
to give up and continue with the rest of the save set, if possible?
--P
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