On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 06/06/2013 08:19 AM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: Damn! I work in federal govt and we have numerous (3 digits) VMS hosts world-wide t= hat never gave us any trouble (especially compared to windoze).=20 Really? According to HP's Lorraine Bartlett VP BCS Marketing & Strategy who gave a keynote at the recent OpenVMS Bootcamp in mid-March, there were less than 200 VMS customers and none were in Gov't. So is she clueless, or is she a liar? Resellers were still offering big bucks for VAX-7800 CPU modules as recently as ~2 years ago, specifically for the Pentagon. And those are VAXen, for chrissakes! I, and those in attendance, knew better. Yep. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA Hello! Improperly briefed. According to those unnamed sources we all know of, the same government offices who're using forty year old software to fly our planes, (civilian) are still using PDP-11 based systems for those specialty functions that were never brought to the VAX. Hardware as well as software. And it gets stranger, there are still some agencies who are using S-100 based systems for those applications which actually could never be placed on a PC or server, or otherwise. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."