2 May
2018
2 May
'18
10:42 p.m.
On 2018-05-02 21:22, Brian Hechinger wrote:
The idea is to expand the cisco tunnel configuration
management tool I
wrote to support multinet and the bridge.
Understood.
Wherever there are endpoints (bridge, multinet) there
would be an agent
that manages the config driven by a centralized system.
Ok.
I was going to re-write the cisco tunnel one anyway,
so figured why not
expand if people were interested.
The nice part about this is the people who manage the "hubs" wouldn't
have to do anything. It would all be user self service driven.
With the cisco tunnel thing I can just use SNMP to push config fragments
onto the routers. WIth the bridge and multinet that's not an option, so
a locally running agent would take up that work.
Ok. So we're not talking about "generating" C code, but just a local
agent is required, which can accept configuration information, and push
that down to the configuration on the local machine.
Why you ask? I automate things for a living. It's
what I enjoy doing. :)
We all do something for a living. I've certainly been dabbling in that
are myself as well. :-)
I mainly asked because my understanding from the comments was that you
would be generating C code, which was pushed out. And that sounded very
confusing to me. But now it sounds as if you are in fact talking about
something else.
You could just as well implement an SNMP agent on the systems, which you
could then push configs through in the same way you do for the Cisco boxes.
Johnny
-brian
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
On that topic, why would you be generating code? It's just a config
file that needs changing, and then a signal sent to the process.
(For the bridge).
For multinet, it essentially would be a couple of configuration
commands under VMS or RSX. I don't get the "output 'C'" comment
at all.
? Johnny
On 2018-04-30 01:02, Brian Hechinger wrote:
I can and that would probably be my fall back option.
On Sun, Apr 29, 2018, 18:45 Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net
<mailto:steve at davidson.net> <mailto:steve at davidson.net
<mailto:steve at davidson.net>>> wrote:
? ? Can you output "C"?
? ? -Steve Davidson
? ? Sent from my iPhone
? ? ?> On Apr 29, 2018, at 15:48, Johnny Billquist
<bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
? ? <mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>>>
wrote:
? ? ?>
? ? ?> I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't think I'd be
? ? interested in any kind of automation like that for my
systems. I
? ? prefer to know explicitly what I have.
? ? ?>
? ? ?>? Johnny
? ? ?>
? ? ?>> On 2018-04-29 21:20, Brian Hechinger wrote:
? ? ?>> Would anyone be interested in some manner of automation
for this
? ? similar to what I do for the cisco tunnels?
? ? ?>> Re-writing that in Go has been on my short list for a
while now.
? ? Mayne now is the time to look to expanding it as well.
? ? ?>> One of the things I was going to add was a web front
end so you
? ? can all manage your own endpoints.
? ? ?>> The bridge will be easy, I can write an agent that can
run there
? ? to manage it as those are all unix boxes and so I should be
able to
? ? generate binaries for that.
? ? ?>> Multinet may be a tad trickier since Go doesn?t generate
? ? binaries for VMS/RSX/etc so I may have to pick something
else there.
? ? Not sure what I?d do.
? ? ?>> Thoughts?
? ? ?>> -brian
? ? ?>>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Steve Davidson
<steve at davidson.net <mailto:steve at davidson.net>
? ? <mailto:steve at davidson.net <mailto:steve at
davidson.net>>> wrote:
? ? ?>>>
? ? ?>>> I can do eastern US like I did the bridge.? I have to
finish
? ? the Tex build though...
? ? ?>>>
? ? ?>>> -Steve Davidson
? ? ?>>>
? ? ?>>> Sent from my iPhone
? ? ?>>>
? ? ?>>>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:23, Jeroen Brons
? ? <idiotoflinux at gmail.com <mailto:idiotoflinux at gmail.com>
<mailto:idiotoflinux at gmail.com <mailto:idiotoflinux at
gmail.com>>>
wrote:
? ? ?>>>>
? ? ?>>>> i''m Also in the Netherlands, but because of my
ISP
my IP isnt
? ? exactly static (although it stays the same most of the
time...), and
? ? as it's running at home im willing to run? a bridge but i
cannot
? ? guarantee uptime
? ? ?>>>>> Op 29 apr. 2018, om 18:19 heeft Hans Vlems
<hvlems at zonnet.nl <mailto:hvlems at zonnet.nl>
? ? <mailto:hvlems at zonnet.nl <mailto:hvlems at zonnet.nl>>>
het
volgende geschreven:
? ? ?>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>> Johnny
? ? ?>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>> My connection to Hecnet is thru your site with your
bridge
? ? program. It runs on a Fedora (17) system that also hosts
A44RTR.
? ? ?>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>> None of my systems run Multinet, and A44RTR runs
VAX/VMS V7.3
? ? and DECnet phase IV. It may be converted to run phase V if that
? ? would help you.
? ? ?>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>> My internet connection is ADSL2+ which translates to
11 Mb/s
? ? downstream and less than 400 kb/s upstream. Not bloody
useful as a
? ? hub, then again Netherlands is not exactly in southern Europe.
? ? ?>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>> Hans
? ? ?>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
? ? ?>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>>> Op 29 apr. 2018 om 17:52 heeft Johnny Billquist
? ? <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>>> het
volgende
geschreven:
? ? ?>>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>>> Guys. I figure I should try to get a more
formalized
? ? handling of connections to HECnet.
? ? ?>>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>>> With my bridge, it's mostly just people
connecting
to me,
? ? but this is not a solution that scales very well, so in
general I
? ? now try to discourage people from this option. When possible, I
? ? prefer to move people away from it.
? ? ?>>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>>> Multinet on the other hand scales well. And is
possible to
? ? use directly both in VMS and RSX. However, it is silly and
? ? inefficient if all multinet links are to go to me. So I'm
thinking
? ? about identifying a few people/places elsewhere in the
world, which
? ? can be used for connections where it makes more sense for a
somewhat
? ? closer point of connection.
? ? ?>>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>>> So, I would go on dealing with Europe. Might at
some point
? ? be that we'd like a second point in the south of Europe,
but that is
? ? not a high priority right now.
? ? ?>>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>>> However, for the US, it would be nice if we could
identify a
? ? location on each coast, which have a capable system, and
normally is
? ? always online, and which have a good bandwidth, and would
be willing
? ? to setup connections to new machines that want to come online.
? ? ?>>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>>> So, are there any takers? I'll continue to be
the first
? ? point of contact when people come asking, but I'd be happy if I
? ? could redirect them to the appropriate person once we have
figured
? ? out a few basic details.
? ? ?>>>>>> And then these two persons can work on
establishing the
? ? actual link.
? ? ?>>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>>> Johnny
? ? ?>>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>>> --
? ? ?>>>>>> Johnny Billquist? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? || "I'm
on a bus
? ? ?>>>>>>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?||? on a psychedelic
trip
? ? ?>>>>>> email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at
softjar.se>
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>>
?||? Reading murder books
? ? ?>>>>>> pdp is alive!? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?||? tryin'
to
stay hip" -
? ? B. Idol
? ? ?>>>>>
? ? ?>>>>
? ? ?>>>
? ? ?>
? ? ?> --
? ? ?> Johnny Billquist? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? || "I'm on a bus
? ? ?>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ||? on a psychedelic trip
? ? ?> email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>>? ? ? ? ? ? ?||
? ?Reading murder books
? ? ?> pdp is alive!? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?||? tryin' to stay
hip" - B. Idol
--
Johnny Billquist? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? || "I'm on a bus
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ||? on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>? ? ? ? ? ? ?||
Reading murder books
pdp is alive!? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?||? tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol