8 Nov
2021
8 Nov
'21
10:42 p.m.
Most of today?s experimentation is due to the mention of linux around DECnet and LAT?
It?ll give the VT510 I have a little bit of freedom with a serial console to a tiny little
Pi and then on, via DECnet or LAT to the rest of the kit, simulated and real. Now all I
have to do is stop pronouncing ?llogin? (set host/lat) in the Welsh fashion, ll being a
voiceless L sound.
Tony ? it?s all there in John?s git repo, see below:
Keith
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Tony
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Sent: 08 November 2021 21:31
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] Is this the most up to date version of DECnet OS numbers?
I've been running latd on my Raspberry Pi 4 for a while (the default install starts up
using the hostname as a service name).
Right. It was/is slightly more than a toolkit. It does have a couple of processes which
deals with circuits and executor management. And I think there is TLK/LSN so you can
communicate. But beyond that, you were on your own.
And no, OS/8 under RTS-8 don't allow them to be counted as one. :-)
From OpenVMS LATCP it shows up as -
LATCP> show service pi5
LAT Control Program
Service Name: PI5
Service Status: Available
Service Ident: Linux 5.10.63-v7l+
Node Name Status Rating Identification
PI5 Reachable 10 Linux 5.10.63-v7l+
Would you care to share your RaspbianDECnet mods Keith? I'd like to try this too.
The other question to me is - should I pioneer this using the just released Raspberry Pi
OS Debian Bullseye? I think I might!
Tony
On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 4:22 AM Keith Halewood <Keith.Halewood at
pitbulluk.org<mailto:Keith.Halewood at pitbulluk.org>> wrote:
Well, that was an interesting compilation of the raspbian kernel.
I cloned https://github.com/JohnForecast/RaspbianDECnet and got busy. I had to remove the
--help-- stanzas from the Kconfig file. They were tripping something up.
I had to move the MAC address change to the bridge (I use /etc/network/interfaces with
bridges and taps etc..)
DECnet is all working on a 32bit raspbian on a pi3b+, HECnet node name 29.115 - I'll
christen it at some point :)
Thank you John Forecast for doing all the hard work.
Keith
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On 2021-11-07 18:06, Robert Armstrong wrote:
I think
DECnet/8 is for RTS-8, but there never was one for OS-8.
Yes, the DECnet-8 was for RTS although you could run OS/8 as a task
under RTS (so maybe those two count as the same). In any case AFAIK
there was never any NFT or FAL or remote terminal or NCP/NML or
anything else like that implemented for DECnet/8. It was more of a
toolkit kind of thing where you could write your own RTS program to
make a DECnet connection to another node. What you sent over that connection was your
problem. Never heard of DECnet for CP/M although there
certainly was one for MSDOS.
Linux is interesting, although I doubt that was put there by DEC.
Probably somebody added it later.
Linux was definitely defined post-DEC. I simply just talked with a Linux FAL from RSX and
checked what value it put in the OS field, and added that to my list from there.
And what the heck is COPOS/11?? I see that is says
TOPS-20 front
end, but I thought TOPS20 used the same RSX20F as TOPS10.
I don't think it's the same as the RSX20F frontend. I have no idea what it is, but
it's in the source files for the RSX DECnet code. Sounds like some oddball thing that
existed somewhere. CSS thing maybe?
And DTF/MVS? Is that the IBM OS MVS?
I almost suspect it might be, but again, no real clue. All I can say is that this is what
is in the RSX sources.
Johnny
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