[HECnet] Towards the Mouth of Madness....

I guess I got in at the end of the Netware years (Yeah I know governments still use) and I did live through the entire Ethernet, EthernetII, 802.2, 802.3 fiasco's (lol so much for standard....) All the stuff we had midrange did speak IPX/SPX, from the NeXT to the RS/6000's and PC's.... Oddly enough our VAX's actually had some netware thing. I wish I'd managed to make copies of the tapes, but we did have Netware for VAX/VMS. For our mainframe access we used Novell's SAA gateway which... was terrible, when Microsoft shipped SNA server 2.1 (was there a 1.0?!) we RAN to that... And used it over IPX/SXP with people even using dialup shiva's! It wasn't until 95 with Microsoft including TCP/IP into the consumer OS did it really start to matter. Well from my POV anyways. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:27 PM, H Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote: Remember what I wrote: this happened nearly two decades ago. IP is the protocol that survived and most people aren t even aware what happened on local area networks before, say,1998. I worked for Fuji, photosensitive films, paper and offset printing products. Most of the IT equipment was made by DEC: PDP-11 s (/44, /84, /93, /24, /73 and /23), VAXes, an IBM mainframe (4081) and PC s. And lots of other gear, most of it in the research lab. A Motorola box that ran Motorola Unix, and an RS/6000 under AIX 2.4 (?). The lingua franca was DECnet and LAT. No IP, though some PC s used Novell and SNA over tokenring to make terminal emulation to the mainframe possible. No IP. Sounds weird in today s world but DECnet eventually connected everything. We got a *very* early Cisco router that did level 1 DECnet routing between the corporate ethernet and the finance dept token ring. Another (DEC) box that routed DECnet over Datanet/1 (that s X25 in Europe IIRC). The mainframe used an SNA/DECnet gateway (the big channel attached box). The RS/6000 and the Motorola systems also ran DECnet, endnode only. To make this a little interesting we ran the first FDDI network in the Netherlands. Trouble shooting wasn t always easy, especially if the SNA/DECnet gateway was involved! Hans Van: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] Namens Jason Stevens Verzonden: dinsdag, juli 2011 21:10 Aan: hecnet at update.uu.se Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Towards the Mouth of Madness.... AIX and decnet? now that'd be ... non conformist & fun! Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 10.0.1388 / Virusdatabase: 1516/3760 - datum van uitgifte: 07/12/11