31 May
2020
31 May
'20
5:55 p.m.
? Great work? - sure makes things easier.
? I don't see the TCP/IP choice on RPM LIST? - have you made it "live"
yet?
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On 5/31/2020 10:41 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Yes, this do simplify things even more.
All you need to do is a one time install of whatever package you want.
Then maintenance of an RSX system is essentially just a question of
"RPM ALL". However, a possible additional complication is that if
TCP/IP have been updated, you will want to do a reboot. So you need to
somehow detect if that happened. I have some ideas on how you could
check for that after updating, so that it can all be a bit more
automated, but for a start, the simple "RPM ALL" is essentially doing
almost all the work for you.
? Johnny
On 2020-05-31 17:05, Mark Matlock wrote:
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Johnny,
??? This is a very interesting development!! As someone who is
updating about 6 RSX systems with your TCP/IP system on a roughly
weekly basis this is of keen interest to me. I like the idea of
keeping the IPCONFIG separate from RPM since the network
configuration can be so customized especially with the HECnet over IP
capabilities.
??? This is really a revolutionary way to handle RSX software
installation and maintenance!
Thanks,
Mark
On May 31, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Johnny Billquist
<bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
Ok. Thanks for inspiring me.
I now also have TCP/IP as a package under RPM.
A couple of comments about it are in place:
1) It's *big* You'll need atleast about 25.000 free blocks to
install or update. So nothing for anyone with an RL02 as the system
disk.
2) It will do the install/update, but it will not start TCP/IP. You
will still need the separate scripts for TCP/IP in
LB:[1,2]STARTUP.CMD in order to start the whole thing. RPM can only
be used for the updating of the system.
3) Because of some issues, RPM will also not be able to
automatically handle any updates to your IP configuration as such.
So after doing an update of TCP/IP, you might want to do that by
hand, which is done by running "LB:[IP]IPCONFIG UPD". If you are
downloading the distribution itself, things runs just like before.
4) Depending on your internet connection, updating this package
might take a little while. I have also observed some issues with
some sneaky FTP proxy interfering with FTP transfers from MIM. If
you are getting errors and timeouts doing transfers over FTP, try
changing the source to be mim.update.uu.se:10021 instead.
? Johnny
On 2020-05-31 10:04, R. Voorhorst wrote:
Nice functionality to arrive so easily at a
well-kept updated
environment!
Big question now obviously appearing:? will TCP/IP follow suit or
is that not so suitable concerning the host machine?
Thanks,
Reindert
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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: Sunday, 31 May, 2020 02:24
To: Mark Matlock <mark at matlockfamily.com>; hecnet at update.uu.se
Cc: Info-PDP11 at dbit.com; SIMH <simh at trailing-edge.com>; [PiDP-11]
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Subject: Re: [PiDP-11] Re: [HECnet] Announcing RPM, a software
packet manager for RSX-11M-PLUS
On 2020-05-30 22:04, Mark Matlock wrote:
>
>> On May 30, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Since I'm on a roll today, I figure I should announce the
>> availability of a new tool for RSX, which I think most hobbyists
>> will find rather useful.
>>
>> RPM is a packet manager for RSX (it has nothing to do with the
>> Red Hat Packet Manager, except the name).
>
> Johnny,
> ????? I love not only the new RPM software repository tool but
> also all the updated software tools. A few of the software
> packages that RPM listed were even new to me!
You're welcome. And have have *lots* of more software. It will just
take a lot of time to work through it all and create packages for it.
> ????? Also, I was behind in getting the latest versions of your
> NEMA, MKE and several others. This will make it very easy to stay
> current.
Similar problem to my own... What version did I now have on that
machine? Did I do any updates since I last installed there? What
software do I actually have? And where is it...?
> ???? Thanks for this and also thanks for the latest version of
> your TCP/IP system.
Happy to provide it. And it looks like it has already seen some
action, based on the ftp logs at MIM... :-)
??? Johnny
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