On 2020-04-23 04:49, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
I've had my fill of FAL and DAP for the moment and
have turned to some
other things as sort of a 'break'.? The Tops-10 NFT client breaks on
certain file names that the 20 sends it, so there is going to be some
debugging to track that down.? Fortunately, a very patient person gave
me PPN on one of their 10's.
Right now, I'm working on bringing the Tops-20 mail system a bit more up
to date with respect to DECnet communications.? These were largely put
aside when full Internet connectivity happened. Still, the PANDA
distribution has some bit rot because I know that certain Columbia
changes for DECnet (to support CCnet) are not there.? I can't imagine
that we didn't send them to MRC; that would have been unthinkable.
Fortunately, I was able to remember enough to put some of them back so
that I got SMTP over DECnet working well, again.? It had been suffering
from about two minute timing delays and now it's instantaneous between
20's, like I remember.?? Oddly enough, I don't remember what else ran
SMTP over DECnet; I'm certain that RSX and VMS could have done it.? I
think some VMS site might have.
However, most non-SMTP DECnet hosts on CCnet were running Mail-11, which
the 20 also groks.? In fact, it can convert Mail-11 addresses to SMTP
and route over other transports such as PUP, Chaos and TCP/IP as well as
DECnet.? We did a lot of mail routing for CCnet to the Internet on
CU20B, back in the day.
Unfortunately, there is some bit rot in some of the Tops-20 Mail-11
code, so I've got some tinkering to do.? Does anyone have a VMS or RSX
system that they'd care to give me a guest account on?? It doesn't need
any special capabilities; I'm just going to be sending mail and looking
a few raw headers over.
Just log in to Mim.Update.UU.SE (MIM::). There is a guest account, with
password guest. That should do it, I think.
With that said, RSX definitely do not speak SMTP over DECnet. And we
should also actually go into some detail about how to speak MAIL-11.
Even VMS cheats...
Johnny
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