12 Apr
2021
12 Apr
'21
8:17 p.m.
Oh, and I forgot. In the same directory as FLCVRT is also PUNCH, which
is a program that will output the absolute loader data from a task file
to any serial like device.
Johnny
On 2021-04-12 20:15, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Ok. Did some digging around. Found two tools:
FLCVRT (Fall 78 sig, [302,2])
LDX (Spring 80 sig, [326,213])
These can be found on MIM::DECUS:
They should be possible to mount read-only by anyone.
?Johnny
On 2021-04-12 20:09, Johnny Billquist wrote:
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Looking through the DECUS library, I see there is
a tool (maybe more)
to convert a .TSK image into absolute loader format.
So this already exist. Bob, you can ping me directly, and I can point
you to it. I have it on Mim, but it's inside a disk image, and there
might be multiple versions, so I should research this a little, if you
haven't.
??Johnny
On 2021-04-12 20:02, Paul Koning wrote:
Ok, so you don't need overlays or any of that
funny stuff.? Are there
any macros in there?? You could just use the paper tape tools (pal11
and link11) to do the job.? Or the assembler and linker in DOS-11.
Alternatively, there's an assembler and linker that runs on Linux, I
forgot who wrote it, it was mentioned not too long ago.
In any case, this would be a trivial link, so converting the
resulting executable image file to an equivalent LDA file would be
easy enough.
????paul
On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Robert Armstrong
<bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
? Thanks for the suggestions, guys, but I don't think that'll help.
? What I want to do is to rebuild (after making some changes) Joe
Lang's copy of DEC's paper tape BASIC-11
????http://www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/papertapeimages/DEC-11-LPTBA-B-PB_disassembly/
? There are three MACRO-11 source files that have to be separately
assembled and then linked into an absolute memory image.
Bob
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I don't remember the format of a task file, but object files in RSX
and RT11 are nearly identical.? The difference is that the RT11 ones
are "formatted binary", the same structure as abs loader data, where
records start with a byte of 1 followed by a byte of 0, then load
address and length (or the other way around).? RSX uses RMS variable
length records instead, so you get a record containing a load
address and data, but the length is handled by RMS.? The conversion
between the two is pretty trivial.
PIP on RSTS can do this, for example RSX to RT11 would be "pip
foo.lda/fb=foo.obj".
I have somewhere a Python script that turns an a.out format
executable (from the GNU linker) into an abs loader file.
Converting that to handle task files is likely to be pretty easy.
????paul
> On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net>
> wrote:
>
> RT emulation under RSTS should work as well.? If I can find some
> time I can fix my router and give you an account on PLUTO::? if
> that helps.
>
> -Steve
>
> SF:IP2
>
>> On Apr 12, 2021, at 13:12, Robert Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> ? Thanks ? I don?t have RT11 at the moment; I have the RSX AME on
>> VMS.? I guess I could set up RT11 on some simh, but I was looking
>> for a shortcut.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE]
>> On Behalf Of Steve Davidson
>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 10:04 AM
>> To: hecnet at update.uu.se
>> Subject: Re: [HECnet] Task Buillder question
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> You are looking for LDA format. TKB might be able to do it but
>> LINK (RT-11) certainly can.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>> SF:IP2
>>
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2021, at 12:57, Robert Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> ? Ok, this is a bit of an off the wall question, but ? can Task
>> Builder (aka TKB) build paper tape images in absolute loader
>> format?? Can anybody clue me in as to the magic switch(es) to do
>> this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob