20 Jul
2023
20 Jul
'23
11:37 p.m.
Keith,
If you want a landline number its different. So both Zen and BT offer a landline service
but it only works if you use their router. So my phone is connected to my ZEN router and
my previous router is then in a downstream port in “DMZ” mode. (DMZ is a misnomer). The
other issue is some Fibre ISPs use CGNAT and you have to pay for a routable IP address.
With ZEN you get a single fixed IP address. Great.
Dave
From: Keith Halewood <Keith.Halewood(a)pitbulluk.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 7:56 PM
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Subject: [HECnet] Re: ONT?
It seems to be a bit simpler in the UK, at least as far as a few ISPs I’ve encountered.
You get a a bridge connection to which you connect your router’s Ethernet WAN port.
Then again, I didn’t go down the technophobe routes.
K
On 20 Jul 2023, at 18:53, Thomas DeBellis <tommytimesharing(a)gmail.com
<mailto:tommytimesharing@gmail.com> > wrote:
That's interesting. Can you send me the make and model number of what you're
talking about?
I did almost the same thing with Verizon. What I insisted on was that the ONT have an
Ethernet connection and not the coax connection that it typically comes with. Once I did
that, I plugged my router in and then plugged their router into my router. Phone worked
fine. The TV may have worked fine, but I don't really remember as neither my wife nor
I ever watched it.
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On 7/19/23 9:49 PM, Supratim Sanyal wrote:
I told Verizon I manage my own LAN and to connect my wall-mounted RJ45 to their WAN and
they put in this ONT. it is available on eBay for around $20. I use a home-built miniPC
with a PCI quad-NIC running Sophos UTM9 in a Virtualbox on Linux as the main router that
does DHCP for WAN and three different subnets on the LAN side (smart home/iot, hobby lab
and general purpose family subnets). I think you can just buy a ONT off eBay and be done.
I believe it’s a Alcatel thing.
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On Jul 19, 2023, at 4:22 PM, Steve Davidson <mailto:steve@davidson.net>
<steve(a)davidson.net> wrote:
Would a vpn work to the other end? That way the other end would supply you an address.
-Steve Davidson
SF:iP1
On Jul 19, 2023, at 14:07, dave.g4ugm(a)gmail.com <mailto:dave.g4ugm@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thomas,
I don’t think you can buy an ONT as I think it does some network filtering and the ISP
needs to know its MAC address or similar…
… this seems to confirm….
https://www.cabletv.com/optimum/compatible-modem-routers
… the optimum combo is being slagged off everywhere. It appears to have no support for
port mapping, I wonder if they are using CGNAT…
https://www.reddit.com/r/OPTIMUM/comments/k703ni/anyone_with_fiber_experime…
… elsewhere
https://www.reddit.com/r/FiberOptics/comments/w81umo/just_hopped_onto_fiber…
it says…
You can usually request a fibre to Ethernet bridge from your ISP (Optimum does do this)
and you can use your own router with an Ethernet WAN port.
Dave
From: Thomas DeBellis <mailto:tommytimesharing@gmail.com>
<tommytimesharing(a)gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 5:47 PM
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Subject: [HECnet] ONT?
I'm moving in a few days and am trying to understand what to do about connectivity
without drowning (in advertising or whining).
I currently have FIOS and had ordered it so that I had a separate Optical Network Terminal
(ONT) and router. I plugged my own router into the ONT and the FIOS router into my router
and all has been well.
The Internet provider at the new location is Optimum Online which previously had been a
lot easier to deal with than FIOS as you could just plug into the cable modem or get your
own. Naturally, I was provided with a combo ONT/Wireless/Router solution that just
isn't going to cut it. I'm trying to search for an ONT, but am getting deluged
with the usual stream of noise, junk and advertising. For example, I'm getting
Optical-Ethernet converters, which I don't think are what I want.
Can anybody point me at a few ONT-only solutions that don't come with all the extra
garbage, don't do NAT, Etc.? Or some kind of good introductory information without
all the blinking ads?
TOMMYT:: [2.520] and VENTI2:: [2.522] will be offline for a few days towards the end of
the week.
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