22 Oct
2020
22 Oct
'20
6:29 p.m.
Just looked at the code found online. I strongly suspect it's the same
version you're playing with.
It started out with (I think) me thinking it was phase II, and then I
had some discussions with Paul, then Paul looked at it, and then
essentially he spotted things that were not truly phase II, but at the
same time it appears to be clearly more than just phase I.
I have the mails somewhere in my mailbox, but I would have to search around.
Johnny
On 2020-10-22 14:48, R. Voorhorst wrote:
Johnny and Paul,
It would be interesting to know if your study with Paul was with working code or just the
published one and which version that would be.
Is there still a mail transaction to consult as it may save me a lot of unnecessary code
digging and give me valuable insights about what you two found out.
Best regards,
Reindert
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] Decnet8: Who has any knowledge about this product and has seen it
actually working in whatever versions?
On 2020-10-19 23:26, Paul Koning wrote:
Paul, we (you and me) looked at Decnet8 in the past, and the conclusion was that it
wasn't really phase II, but not phase I either. Seems to be some kind of thing in
between.
Johnny
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On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:01 PM, R. Voorhorst
<R.Voorhorst at swabhawat.com> wrote:
L.S.
Currently I am finishing testing for the release of the last member of the Pdp8 series
computers: Simh Pdp8a with some new devices (and some from old not present in Ppd8).
Current state of affairs is, that it is running Os8 V3S 128k monitor and the Kt8
diagnostics and is stable.
Also F4 runs and basic Rts8 V2b and V3.
The last hurdle is to activate Decnet8 as the last test station to really load a Pdp8
with some realistic real time work.
Nice!
...
And there are a lot more things going on. So the bottom question remains: has anyone seen
the internet versions working or is there a clobber up between an advanced laboratory
(Phase-II??) version as documented (look at the Ddcmp versions) and a preleased or prior
old Decnet version. And if so, can anything be retrieved or is it lost forever.
I can't help with your detailed questions. But in case it wasn't well known:
yes, I believe DECnet/8 is Phase II. That means you need either a Phase II, or Phase III
DECnet product to talk to it, or you need PyDECnet. That's Phase IV but unlike the
normal case, it supports all the way back to Phase II.
It also has detailed packet tracing, so you might find it a useful peer to use for
debugging your DECnet/8 system. For example, if DDCMP is giving you trouble you should be
able to see what you're receiving from the DECnet/8 system.